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A fine Sunday evening!

Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
edited March 2015 in Brags, Beats and Variance
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
alun1992 Small blind  75.00 75.00 8205.00
noah10 Big blind  150.00 225.00 5375.00
  Your hole cards
  • 2
  • 2
     
dozydozy06 Call  150.00 375.00 605.00
Matt237 Call  150.00 525.00 4756.25
Chlllooo Call  150.00 675.00 3707.50
All7fever Fold     
alun1992 Call  75.00 750.00 8130.00
noah10 Check     
Flop
   
  • 3
  • J
  • A
     
alun1992 Check     
noah10 Check     
dozydozy06 Check     
Matt237 Check     
Chlllooo Check     
Turn
   
  • 2
     
alun1992 Bet  300.00 1050.00 7830.00
noah10 Raise  900.00 1950.00 4475.00
dozydozy06 Fold     
Matt237 Call  900.00 2850.00 3856.25
Chlllooo Fold     
alun1992 Fold     
River
   
  • 8
     
noah10 Bet  2850.00 5700.00 1625.00
Matt237 All-in  3856.25 9556.25 0.00
noah10 Call  1006.25 10562.50 618.75
noah10 Show
  • 4
  • 5
   
Matt237 Show
  • 2
  • 2
   
noah10 Win Straight to the 5 10562.50  11181.25
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
THETANK Small blind  15.00 15.00 4280.00
kopite1984 Big blind  30.00 45.00 2835.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 8
     
brabander Fold     
deadlydan Call  30.00 75.00 5775.00
Matt237 Call  30.00 105.00 3193.75
day4eire76 Fold     
THETANK Call  15.00 120.00 4265.00
kopite1984 Check     
Flop
   
  • 9
  • J
  • K
     
THETANK Check     
kopite1984 Check     
deadlydan Check     
Matt237 Bet  90.00 210.00 3103.75
THETANK Call  90.00 300.00 4175.00
kopite1984 Fold     
deadlydan Call  90.00 390.00 5685.00
Turn
   
  • 10
     
THETANK Check     
deadlydan Check     
Matt237 Bet  330.00 720.00 2773.75
THETANK Fold     
deadlydan Call  330.00 1050.00 5355.00
River
   
  • 7
     
deadlydan Bet  1050.00 2100.00 4305.00
Matt237 All-in  2773.75 4873.75 0.00
deadlydan Call  1723.75 6597.50 2581.25
deadlydan Show
  • Q
  • 10
   
Matt237 Show
  • A
  • 8
   
deadlydan Win Straight Flush to the King 6597.50  9178.75
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
steph13 Small blind  400.00 400.00 11430.00
roonos12 Big blind  800.00 1200.00 17717.50
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
Bruno87 Fold     
Matt237 All-in  4575.00 5775.00 0.00
S7N Fold     
steph13 Fold     
roonos12 Call  3775.00 9550.00 13942.50
roonos12 Show
  • A
  • 5
   
Matt237 Show
  • A
  • K
   
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 8
  • K
     
Turn
   
  • 7
     
River
   
  • 6
     
roonos12 Win Straight to the 9 9550.00  23492.50
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
pager Small blind  150.00 150.00 3830.00
Matt237 Big blind  300.00 450.00 2182.50
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
akos1976 Raise  750.00 1200.00 9222.50
ssbssb Fold     
Enut Fold     
pager Call  600.00 1800.00 3230.00
Matt237 All-in  2182.50 3982.50 0.00
akos1976 Call  1732.50 5715.00 7490.00
pager All-in  3230.00 8945.00 0.00
akos1976 Call  1497.50 10442.50 5992.50
pager Show
  • Q
  • A
   
Matt237 Show
  • K
  • K
   
akos1976 Show
  • J
  •  A 
   
Flop
   
  • 6
  • 10
  • 4
     
Turn
   
  • A
     
River
   
  • 9
     
pager Win Pair of Aces 10442.50  10442.50
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
alvy Small blind  150.00 150.00 8670.00
hhyftrftdr Big blind  300.00 450.00 11030.00
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
taxi571 Fold     
puttitin Raise  600.00 1050.00 10467.50
Matt237 All-in  2920.00 3970.00 0.00
max1959 Fold     
alvy Fold     
hhyftrftdr Fold     
puttitin Call  2320.00 6290.00 8147.50
puttitin Show
  • 6
  • A
   
Matt237 Show
  • J
  • J
   
Flop
   
  • 3
  • 3
  • 7
     
Turn
   
  • 4
     
River
   
  • 5
     
puttitin Win Straight to the 7 6290.00  14437.50
Never mind lol

Comments

  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited March 2015
    Surprised you left off the hand vs me! Though I assume you turned your hand into a bluff on the river...

    Some pretty unfortunate run outs above. The A8 hand is particularly ul! Think the 22 one is a fold, though very hard (poss nigh on impossible) in game.
  • mrsduckmrsduck Member Posts: 1,901
    edited March 2015
    Don't blame the ducks!
    Unlucky!
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: A fine Sunday evening!:
    Surprised you left off the hand vs me! Though I assume you turned your hand into a bluff on the river... Some pretty unfortunate run outs above. The A8 hand is particularly ul! Think the 22 one is a fold, though very hard (poss nigh on impossible) in game.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Nearly did, but guy probably plays majority of 2pairs the same with it being a BH

    I had some more bad hands but decided not to post the busto ones. The 88 hand I decided I was never folding on the flop and probably had the nut best run out without hitting the straight or set, after flop check check it was quite hard to see how I was beat.

    Had another one with AsJx and it came 3 spades with board paired, for a 2 of spades to come on the river and the guy housed up. Funny thing was the guy flatted my value bet.
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited March 2015
    I was going to post saying I thought 22 was a fold then changed my mind but actually it probably still can be! We're only beat by 33 and 45, but there are a lot of 45 combo's compared to 2 pair hands and the only 2 pair hand he plays like this is AJ (which some of the time might raise pre) - but there's less AJ combos overall. So against a good player I can and definitely would find the fold but vs unknown, I prob sigh call. Don't understand the ship tho unless you thought he had a lot of worse hands?

    I remember playing live once in my local rileys which held poker. My opponent bet river and my hand was basically a bluff-catcher. I called river which would have left myself pretty short had I been wrong. I can't remember how short - maybe 6-8bb. Guy next to me was incredulous - saying I called most of my stack off to lose then I may as well shove. I politely explained to him that there was no point in shoving since my opponent wasn't going to fold any hand better than mine with what I had left and what was in the pot. But he was having none of it, insinstent that I had made a terrible play by calling off my stack to lose. My call was correct tho!)

    The point of this story is: Just because calling will leave you very short, doesn't necessarily mean you should shove. If your hand doesn't have /> 50% against villains betting (and calling) range then there is no point in shoving. You can still play a 6bb stack... couple of double up's and you are right back in it. 

    Unlucky on the rest of the hands! That's some run bad.
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: A fine Sunday evening!:
    I was going to post saying I thought 22 was a fold then changed my mind but actually it probably still can be! We're only beat by 33 and 45, but there are a lot of 45 combo's compared to 2 pair hands and the only 2 pair hand he plays like this is AJ (which some of the time might raise pre) - but there's less AJ combos overall. So against a good player I can and definitely would find the fold but vs unknown, I prob sigh call. Don't understand the ship tho unless you thought he had a lot of worse hands? I remember playing live once in my local rileys which held poker. My opponent bet river and my hand was basically a bluff-catcher. I called river which would have left myself pretty short had I been wrong. I can't remember how short - maybe 6-8bb. Guy next to me was incredulous - saying I called most of my stack off to lose then I may as well shove. I politely explained to him that there was no point in shoving since my opponent wasn't going to fold any hand better than mine with what I had left and what was in the pot. But he was having none of it, insinstent that I had made a terrible play by calling off my stack to lose. My call was correct tho!) The point of this story is: Just because calling will leave you very short, doesn't necessarily mean you should shove. If your hand doesn't have /> 50% against villains betting (and calling) range then there is no point in shoving. You can still play a 6bb stack... couple of double up's and you are right back in it.  Unlucky on the rest of the hands! That's some run bad.
    Posted by F_Ivanovic
    This came straight after the straight flush ouchies and the JJ<Ax run out, may be -ev but I had had enough lol. Usually would flat but idek even thinking about it feel its quite close.

    Do think particular villain can have a few worse hands so max value or early night in bed :-D
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited March 2015
    Yeah the 22 is unfortunate, and if you say the villain just treats any random 2 pair as the nuts then fair enough, though I still think there are merits to folding the river. Just think you're gonna get shown 45/33 so often given the circumstances (limped multiway pot, checked round on flop, villain raises into 3 of you on turn etc etc)


    Regarding our hand, perhaps I'm wrong but surely when you jam the river you get called when beat and fold out any hand I might bluff the river with. Without going into too much detail, I'm never calling you with worse than 88! Maybe you have a read I might hero you with ace high ;)
  • ShaunyTShaunyT Member Posts: 619
    edited March 2015
    Wow, some beauties there.



    In Response to Re: A fine Sunday evening!:
    I was going to post saying I thought 22 was a fold then changed my mind but actually it probably still can be! We're only beat by 33 and 45, but there are a lot of 45 combo's compared to 2 pair hands and the only 2 pair hand he plays like this is AJ (which some of the time might raise pre) - but there's less AJ combos overall. So against a good player I can and definitely would find the fold but vs unknown, I prob sigh call. Don't understand the ship tho unless you thought he had a lot of worse hands? I remember playing live once in my local rileys which held poker. My opponent bet river and my hand was basically a bluff-catcher. I called river which would have left myself pretty short had I been wrong. I can't remember how short - maybe 6-8bb. Guy next to me was incredulous - saying I called most of my stack off to lose then I may as well shove. I politely explained to him that there was no point in shoving since my opponent wasn't going to fold any hand better than mine with what I had left and what was in the pot. But he was having none of it, insinstent that I had made a terrible play by calling off my stack to lose. My call was correct tho!) The point of this story is: Just because calling will leave you very short, doesn't necessarily mean you should shove. If your hand doesn't have /> 50% against villains betting (and calling) range then there is no point in shoving. You can still play a 6bb stack... couple of double up's and you are right back in it.  Unlucky on the rest of the hands! That's some run bad.
    Posted by F_Ivanovic
    Brilliant bit of analysis, will definitely consider this in future, as played I would have shoved over the river bet too, from now on i'll think a bit more first :)
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,083
    edited March 2015
    I feel your pain mate, I have been running similar.....except for it's been 2 months of ****. Pain and no gain!!!
  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited March 2015

    Anyone for more Monday fun?

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Matt237 Small blind  800.00 800.00 24000.00
    holdo00 Big blind  1600.00 2400.00 30290.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
         
    goldenb238 All-in  12135.00 14535.00 0.00
    me65 Fold     
    CATBOYAL Fold     
    Matt237 All-in  24000.00 38535.00 0.00
    holdo00 Fold     
    Matt237 Unmatched bet  12665.00 25870.00 12665.00
    Matt237 Show
    • A
    • 10
       
    goldenb238 Show
    • J
    • 10
       
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • A
    • 9
         
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    goldenb238 Win Straight to the Queen 25870.00  25870.00
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    SilentChiv Small blind  10.00 10.00 4430.00
    wynne1938 Big blind  20.00 30.00 6195.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    Tsaaaar Raise  80.00 110.00 4890.00
    Matt237 Raise  270.00 380.00 4265.00
    pdavo100 Fold     
    samantha25 Fold     
    SilentChiv Fold     
    wynne1938 Fold     
    Tsaaaar Raise  700.00 1080.00 4190.00
    Matt237 All-in  4265.00 5345.00 0.00
    Tsaaaar Call  3755.00 9100.00 435.00
    Tsaaaar Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Matt237 Show
    • A
    • A
       
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 3
    • J
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    Tsaaaar Win Full House, Kings and 8s 9100.00  9535.00
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    HitOnRiver Big blind  200.00 200.00 3160.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    trebor49 Call  200.00 400.00 12497.50
    alexrussel Raise  400.00 800.00 6562.50
    hammer53 Fold     
    Matt237 All-in  4260.00 5060.00 0.00
    HitOnRiver Fold     
    trebor49 Fold     
    alexrussel Call  3860.00 8920.00 2702.50
    alexrussel Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    Matt237 Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • A
    • J
         
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    alexrussel Win Three 10s 8920.00  11622.50
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    banana10 Small blind  75.00 75.00 2277.50
    vert777720 Big blind  150.00 225.00 7595.00
      Your hole cards
    • 6
    • 6
         
    sooky Fold     
    The_Chris Fold     
    Matt237 All-in  1541.88 1766.88 0.00
    jason271 All-in  4767.50 6534.38 0.00
    banana10 Fold     
    vert777720 Fold     
    jason271 Unmatched bet  3225.62 3308.76 3225.62
    Matt237 Show
    • 6
    • 6
       
    jason271 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    Flop
       
    • K
    • Q
    • 6
         
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • K
         
    jason271 Win Full House, Kings and Aces 3308.76  6534.38
    Then I made Mega FT and ran ok up till 3 handed, then something weird happened, guy starts jamming every hand, picked up AQ and thought oh perfect. Yeah.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    bernie1968 Small blind  4000.00 4000.00 84071.00
    s7eve Big blind  8000.00 12000.00 322444.25
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    Matt237 All-in  101484.75 113484.75 0.00
    bernie1968 Fold     
    s7eve All-in  322444.25 435929.00 0.00
    s7eve Unmatched bet  228959.50 206969.50 228959.50
    s7eve Show
    • 3
    • 9
       
    Matt237 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 9
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 5
         
    s7eve Win Two Pairs, Kings and 9s 206969.50  435929.00
    I know the 4th hand was a flip but I smashed that flop pretty hard lol
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: A fine Sunday evening!:
    I feel your pain mate, I have been running similar.....except for it's been 2 months of ****. Pain and no gain!!!
    Posted by waller02
    and then 43mins later you take me out of DTD2 with AJ>JJ - how is my luck running!

    as for the 22 hand, as per ivan the shove seems pretty pointless, although i doubt i could fold in game as described
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,611
    edited March 2015
    I really don't think pocket 2s is a fold there. I know I'm guilty of being nitty at times, but surely you're beating far more than you're losing to in this one.
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