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Structure in 8pm Main Bhs
macapaca
Member Posts: 658
I saw a post saying they were changing the starting stack and structure in the 8pm BH main events.
Is this still the case?
It's ok lobby says 2k stack for tonight's main
Comments
They have mucked about with an already v decent structure.
Bring back the 2k!
Congratulations.
Firstly, see the reply by Nuggy Nug Nug Nug.
FWIW (nothing, really) last week, the first time it ran with the new structure, it got 429, & last night it got 376.
It's not a relevant question though - there is no way on God's earth that such a small sample size would be taken to mean anything, whether the numbers were up, down, or indifferent - a far larger sample size is needed.
So many factors need to be taken into account.
Time of year (seasonality)
Time of month (this is a key stat, relative to when most people get paid)
Whether the event was "pushed" (SMS, e-Mails etc) by Sky Poker.
What competing attractions existed - a big football match, Golf Major, X Factor, lighter nights, good (or bad) weather, or any number of other things.
Was Poker being especially pushed in any given week? This week, a lot of the Business focus is on Vegas Million, & what will be, by a very long way, Sky Bet's busiest week EVER, due to The Masters, Grand National, Man U v Man C, F1 Grand Prix, & so on. So most of the "pushes" will be around those. Next week, it might be poker that gets boosted & promoted extra hard.
All these factors, & many more, need to be considered.
Additionally, what numbers need comparing to establish whether it has had a positive or negative effect?
W-o-W? (week on week)
M-o-M?
Y-o-Y?
Uniques? (how many different players are on site that night, week or month)
All of them? Some of them?
So it is way too early to draw any firm conclusions, unless, of course, the key paramaters doubled, or halved, or something equally drastic.
Remember, the site has the same objectives as the players - both want the site to do better. The business because it makes more money, the players because it gives them bigger prize pools & liquidity generally. So both parties want it to be right, not just the players.
It was made clear when the changes were introduced that they were NOT set in stone. If they prove unsuccessful, they will revert to either the original stacks, or, more likely, somewhere in between. I assure you this remains the case - it will remain under review for a while yet.
You will see a lot more changes, too. (One will be made known today). There is a fresh determination, & additional staff resource, to make the site better. Along the way, they will make a mistake or two, be in no doubt. On balance, they will make good decisions imo, they have all the data (you & me don't), & because they want to make a better site. For the Business, & for players - it amounts to the same thing.
As this thread shows (but irrelevant due to sample size) SOME players like the changes, some dislike them. That will always be the case of course.
If it does not have a positive effect OVERALL, it will be changed - I abso promise. Why would they not?
Just a few things about the new structure - for games during the week.
The Thurs BH always finished about 12 or thereafter. Which for someone working was ideal.
Frid /Sat BH's had a nice structure late on with the blind levels so games would finish at 2ish.
With the new system, presumably the games will last longer.
Importantly also, Bounty Hunters are for the action junkies. The action is thick and fast.
With the new structure (early levels) this is completely lost starting with 166 bb.
I played for the 1st time last night since the new structure was introduced. By 9pm on my table not one player had been knocked out, and no player had more than 6k or less than 4k chips. It was very slow and felt like playing a 9 max game.
The whoe beauty of BH's is the dynamic it brings to the game, people chasing bounties / constant action, which I feel is missing from the new structure for the first hour.
Many players LIKE those changes in dynamic, & I expect many don't.
There is no "one size fits all" here, & never will be.
The changes, as I stated, are not set in stone, but nothing so far has indicated any overall negatives, on balance. If need be, they will revert, probably to somewhere in between the new & the old.
It's highly unlilkely - imo - they will revert to the old 2,000 chip structure though. I, & many others, have lobbied for some time to have that increased, because we believe, on balance, for that to be better for the majority of players.
It might be like the wife's new hair-do. We rarely like it at first, but after a while, we start to like it, & soon we can't remember what it was like before. It's the same wife though, & we still love her.*
* T & C's apply.
Doesn't seem to matter how many chips I start with, I am usually in bed by 10.30.
Fact is, if we Final one of these occassionally - & no matter how good we are, it will only be occassionally - we don't mind a late night if we awake next morning with a goodly few bob extra in our Account.
Over 80% of us won't cash on any given night, though, & many of us will only cash big once in a blue moon.
I personally am all in favour of the bigger starting stacks. the 2,000 chip starting stack just made everyone way too shallow way too fast for my liking. I can definitely say that now there will be an 8pm main available with a good starting stack and structure pretty much every night I will playing here more and less on other sites. Sky is my favourite place to play but would often have to play on 888 or elsewhere because there were no well structured tourneys available on Sky other than the Wednesday Rebuy and Sunday Roller - so I'm very pleased to see that's been rectified and support the change.