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Mini FT, am i right to call the shove here

RLT16RLT16 Member Posts: 1,433
edited April 2015 in The Poker Clinic
Villian has been fairly tight but only been sat with him a short amount of time, what do u guys make of my call and play all around? i think once he shoves over me its pretty clear he has a Q or maybe even an over pair, but with second pair and a flush draw is this a call i should be making?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
* Small blind  4000.00 4000.00 189854.44
fenton94 Big blind  8000.00 12000.00 386609.03
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 9
     
splashies Fold     
RLT16 Raise  16000.00 28000.00 119424.24
lmrubbish Fold     
* Call  12000.00 40000.00 177854.44
fenton94 Call  8000.00 48000.00 378609.03
Flop
   
  • 5
  • Q
  • 10
     
* Check     
fenton94 Check     
RLT16 Bet  24000.00 72000.00 95424.24
* All-in  177854.44 249854.44 0.00
fenton94 Fold     
RLT16 All-in  95424.24 345278.68 0.00
* Unmatched bet  58430.20 286848.48 58430.20
* Show
  • Q
  • A
   
RLT16 Show
  • 10
  • 9
   
Turn
   
  • 4
     
River
   
  • 2
     
* Win Pair of Queens 286848.48  345278.68
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  • CraigSG1CraigSG1 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited April 2015
    Standard
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited April 2015
    Yeah standard.

    It might be different deeper, but we've opened off barely 15xBB (which is fine) and flopped the world. You're getting more than 2to1 on a call now so we need a little under 33% equity and we have that if only our flush outs are live, but against a hand like this; TPTK, we got out 9 flush outs, + 2 more tens + 3 more nines, so 15 outs. We're pretty much flipping against his hand but getting 2to1 on it.

    That's not to mention the times he has KJ/J9 or a bare FD so we don't actually need to improve and our equity is even better
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited April 2015
    pair and flush draw is massive equity wise. If we aren't calling a shove we shouldn't bet flop.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited April 2015
    Jam or fold pre if you are worried about what to do on flops this shallow.

    As played its obv a call although im not totally loving life 
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  • ShaunyTShaunyT Member Posts: 619
    edited April 2015
    As played, fine by me (not that counts for much haha).

    I would say though, if you have only been sat at the table a short while, maybe just fold pre. raising from a 15bb stack with suited conns, what happens if you completely miss the flop? if you cbet the same amount (as played) with air and get jammed on you have to fold and leave yourself just under 12bb.

    Congrats on the FT though. wp
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited April 2015
    Raising T9s is completely fine/standard especially if you are up against villains that are just flatting AQo. We have a ton of fold equity pre-flop and sure we will have to c-bet/fold some of the time but often we can c-bet and take it down. Post is ofc fine
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited April 2015
    Very happy to bet call with this much equity the hand looks fine
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