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Teams - Moving forward

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  • samantha25samantha25 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited April 2015
    so many things I want to say to that, but alas... I'm on a warning ;)
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    so many things I want to say to that, but alas... I'm on a warning ;)
    Posted by samantha25
    probably best for us both
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward : pls don't disappoint me Sam  that is a very naive comment sure the lynch mob all want blood doesn't mean to say in a court of law that would be the outcome and I'm sure there are people who think a life ban is an excessive punishment for being an idiot and I'm sure you've been an idiot in your life as much as I've been doesn't mean to say it would have been fair for us to have been locked away for life that's the problem with the lynch mob mentality they believe they are the only arbitres of truth and fairness whereas they are just as bigoted as the rest of us hence the need for an independent adjudicator ie skypoker  the lynch mob is used to pervert the course of justice by intimidating the authorities to do what they want as against what is right and fair ps I'm not disagreeing with the verdict just highlighting how just because there is a lynch mob it doesn't mean their view is correct
    Posted by GELDY

    geldy,

    your argument here relies upon one falsehood.  that is, banned for being an idiot.

    instead, grasp that the lifetime ban is for something else.

    then you could rewrite your post and be more balanced in your review.








     
  • samantha25samantha25 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited April 2015
    and yes Geldy, I have been stupid... infact very stupid at times. 

    and guess what, i've paid for my mistakes... maybe not sent to jail by the lynch mob - but there again we ain't talking about a lifetime jail sentence here are we? so why the blood/jail talk.

    maybe a better term is banned from the library for not returning your books ;)

    or banned from the local boozer for being too loud/drunk.

    or maybe you like to dramatise things Geldy dear x





    *yes I realise drama from my mouth is rich ;)
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward : geldy, your argument here relies upon one falsehood.  that is, banned for being an idiot. instead, grasp that the lifetime ban is for something else. then you could rewrite your post and be more balanced in your review.  
    Posted by aussie09
    but i'm not making an arguement for the correct penalty
    i'm just stating that there are various views
    the lynch mobs on one hand
    the being an idiot on another
    and a myriad in between
    but just because people have their views
    doesn't mean they are right
    and by definition
    they cannot all be right
    just because one view is very vocal 
    it doesn't make it right
    that's why we need skypoker to adjudicate
    and not work on the basis that the loudest guy necessarily wins
    although sometimes they will be correct
    and sometimes not







  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward : but i'm not making an arguement for the correct penalty i'm just stating that there are various views the lynch mobs on one hand the being an idiot on another and a myriad in between but just because people have their views doesn't mean they are right and by definition they cannot all be right just because one view is very vocal  it doesn't make it right that's why we need skypoker to adudicate and not work on the basis that the loudest guy wins
    Posted by GELDY

    exactly, it's time for you to be quiet, isn't it?



     
  • samantha25samantha25 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited April 2015
    tbh that argument is BS gelders, as the "one" on trial had more support than the "lynch mob".
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,659
    edited April 2015
    Sam, I will take the blame for being the first one to use the term lynch mob, so don't take it out on Gelders. He was just picking up the phrase from one of my posts. It was a somewhat inflammatory word used at a somewhat tense time.

    Let it ride, sister ;)

    We're all friends again.
  • lovelyrachlovelyrach Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2015
    Let's just say it for what it was collusion! however big or small, or t i t for tat arguments led up to this point, its just dragged the whole forum down to its lowest level that I have witnessed in reading it for many years.
    So many people trying to get one up on each other, why not do the talking on the tables.
  • samantha25samantha25 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    Sam, I will take the blame for being the first one to use the term lynch mob , so don't take it out on Gelders. He was just picking up the phrase from one of my posts. It was a somewhat inflammatory word used at a somewhat tense time. Let it ride, sister ;) We're all friends again.
    Posted by Slipwater

    Mite have known you'd have something to do with it Slippy! :)

    Gelders will always be my friend, you howeva ;)

  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward : exactly, it's time for you to be quiet, isn't it?  
    Posted by aussie09
    sure, i think i've made my point of view known 
    that some of us disagree with the concept of trial by mob
    regardless of the strength of their argument





  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward : sure, i think i've made my point of view known  that some of us disagree with the concept of trial by mob regardless of the strength of their argument
    Posted by GELDY

    .... and sleep.




     

  • mrsduckmrsduck Member Posts: 1,901
    edited April 2015
    I'd say most of the "lynch mob" was directed towards Sam & Huft rather than the perps
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,659
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    I'd say most of the "lynch mob" was directed towards Sam & Huft rather than the perps
    Posted by mrsduck
    I still have a fatwa on hhytfrthdbdfd's head ;)
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    I'd say most of the "lynch mob" was directed towards Sam & Huft rather than the perps
    Posted by mrsduck


    not here it wasn't - and i certainly didn't use the expression intending that - if that is how it came across due to activity elsewhere i apologise
    it was more directed at newbies posting on sky with a "you must ban for life" approach when they weren't even part of the community

    back to sleep


     
  • dumb_blonddumb_blond Member Posts: 308
    edited April 2015
    just a thought and probably off topic but would the team section of the dtds not be better served if the team captains
    had to nominate a maxim of ten players who's finishing positions decided their team's scores.
    when you look at the amount of entries some team have it takes up a vast percentages of the runners making it almost impossible for the smaller teams to win against their mob handed opponents as i'm an indy by choice its just an observation.
  • samantha25samantha25 Member Posts: 1,445
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    just a thought and probably off topic but would the team section of the dtds not be better served if the team captains had to nominate a maxim of ten players who's finishing positions decided their team's scores. when you look at the amount of entries some team have it takes up a vast percentages of the runners making it almost impossible for the smaller teams to win against their mob handed opponents as i'm an indy by choice its just an observation.
    Posted by dumb_blond

    Yo DB, well done on yr bink the other night :))

    You make a good point, not sure if anyone would implement it tho and also takes the fun factor away for the non scoring members. TBF, winning it not really an issue for us, more the fun side & if we wanted to we could recruit loads of members that we don't really know to build numbers if that was our goal. It's not about that for some of the smaller teams, I think it's merely the taking part :) just like yourself sweets x

  • lovelyrachlovelyrach Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward : not here it wasn't - and i certainly didn't use the expression intending that - if that is how it came across due to activity elsewhere i apologise it was more directed at newbies posting on sky with a "you must ban for life" approach when they weren't even part of the community back to sleep  
    Posted by GELDY

    I am one of the so called newbies with a " you must ban for life approach" whether you take that in the context of a lynch mob, then so be it. I expressed my sole opinion, just because alot of people have the same opinion does not mean its a lynch mob mentality.
    Now I might not post as much as other people but does that stop me from having an opinion? An unbiased one aswell! I regard cheating as a don't pass go and go straight to jail! 
    As I have stated I think there should be harsher penalties for those who do it, however big or small or whatever circumstances led to it! 
    I don't really care! If you cheated in a casino, you would be arrested so why do people have the opinion that a life ban is all there should be.
  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: Teams - Moving forward:
    just a thought and probably off topic but would the team section of the dtds not be better served if the team captains had to nominate a maxim of ten players who's finishing positions decided their team's scores. when you look at the amount of entries some team have it takes up a vast percentages of the runners making it almost impossible for the smaller teams to win against their mob handed opponents as i'm an indy by choice its just an observation.
    Posted by dumb_blond
    I'm old enough to remember when there were only 10 players in each team, and TBF it worked out okay.  I think that the DTD is primarily an individual event, but it is nice when your team win any particular week or month, and even better when it's against the odds.

    The teams are about much more than who wins the monthly league, so for me let all join in the DTD, if your team, or yourself as an individual do well (well done on Monday DB), then you can feel on top of the world for a week, taking the plaudits, and maybe getting in a few digs at other teams or players along the way.

    The important thing for me about this whole sorry saga, is the fact that this happened in one of the DTD tournaments.  The guys that organise them, and now the live DTD events, deserve nothing but praise for the tireless work they put in.  I hope that we can all accept whatever decision Sky come to, move on, and get this community back to some kind of harmony.  I'm sure the Monday DTD will be at the forefront when it comes to bringing the community together.
  • bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,722
    edited April 2015
    Just catching up over at 2+2

    "Overall a great result for player pressure. I have a feeling the result would have been very different without 2plus2 forum pressure."

    Hear, hear.
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