BUMP. Time has passed, so I just thought I would try again Posted by Phantom66
Hi Phantom.
Can't disagree, it is a bit of a nuisance, no doubt about it.
This is one of those oddities that even I don't really understand. I have asked the question on numerous occasions over the last 6 or 7 years, but I'm still not clear exactly why it is the problem it seems to be.
It seems to be a policy thing as to photographs. I have a Forum elsewhere, it has over 2 million posts on it, & any registered Member can upload a photo without seeking approval. In 10 years, we have had just ONE violation of trust, but I'm sure Sky Poker has good reason.
I don't even know exactly whom the decision & responsibility rests with, & I've been here since before the Forum - or even the poker site - even started. I THINK it sits outside the Poker Team, somewhere in SB&G generally, but I honestly don't know exactly where.
I was with JP in Punta Cana last week, & in seniority terms, we are in a different world, he's a Serious Suit, & I'm the sponge boy, but he could not upload photos, & I could. Go figure that one.
I can upload photos without approval, which I'm grateful for, but, even odder, I can't approve other people's photographs, even though I have sort of enhanced Admin Rights on the Community.
So at present, approval sits with Dan - who has been off work, unwell, for a month or more. In his absence, I guess it falls to Sam, who has his hands more than full in Dan's absence, what with UKOPS, another forward project due to be announced in the next few days, & some other stuff. Yes, "instant" Community photographs would be nice - they SO enhance a Forum - but as a Priority, fair to say, right now it's hardly top of the list.
I'll ask again, when I next speak to Sir Senior Suit.
It is a nuisance, I agree, but not the end of the world.
I'll try & give you an update after I've spoken to The Man.
You answered some of this on JJs thread in that you need "back room" access to be able to approve a photo which means while you have moderator access for posts - you cannot approve photos.
We also know that sky poker are 50% down in terms of the people who have such access rights and regularly check the forum.
However it would really still be much better for the forum if people could upload photos without them needing to be approved at all.
I can't think of another forum or social media system where photo moderation is required in advance. At best it really slows down interaction. The workaround is to put a link to a photo share website in which case sky poker are driving people AWAY from their own website. At worst it just stops people bothering to use this medium at all.
Can the rules be adjusted so that all posters are trusted to upload photos? Or maybe posters who have been on the forum for a set amount of time, or number of posts?
Obviously any abuse would need to be swiftly acted upon. There is already a report abuse button and existing moderators can close a thread/delete a whole post if needed.
I know you are in favour of this, just wondering if there is either a definitive reason why it is not possible or absolute confirmation that the suits will never entertain it. In which case I'll quit asking.
Hi Tikay, You answered some of this on JJs thread in that you need "back room" access to be able to approve a photo which means while you have moderator access for posts - you cannot approve photos. We also know that sky poker are 50% down in terms of the people who have such access rights and regularly check the forum. However it would really still be much better for the forum if people could upload photos without them needing to be approved at all. I can't think of another forum or social media system where photo moderation is required in advance. At best it really slows down interaction. The workaround is to put a link to a photo share website in which case sky poker are driving people AWAY from their own website. At worst it just stops people bothering to use this medium at all. Can the rules be adjusted so that all posters are trusted to upload photos? Or maybe posters who have been on the forum for a set amount of time, or number of posts? Obviously any abuse would need to be swiftly acted upon. There is already a report abuse button and existing moderators can close a thread/delete a whole post if needed. I know you are in favour of this, just wondering if there is either a definitive reason why it is not possible or absolute confirmation that the suits will never entertain it. In which case I'll quit asking. Posted by Phantom66
Morning.
Can't actually disagree with a word of that (see my previous post in this thread).
I did have another long chat with Upstairs about this last week, & I'm afraid I made no progress at all. It's all too long & convoluted to explain the "why", & I'm not sure I understand it myself, but it is what it is, & I can't do any more than I have. There is a reason, fair to say, & I don't really understand it, equally fair to add.
I have the same convo with them periodically, have done since the Forum opened, & will continue to do so as & when appropriate for as long as I'm around.
It's not the end of the world really, but it would definitely help brighten this place up, as would even the most basic things like emoticons & card graphics.
All things come (eventually) to those who wait, or so I'm told, so fingers crossed we'll sort it eventually. At this rate, I'll be a pensioner before it happens.
In Response to Re: What do you have to do? : Morning. Can't actually disagree with a word of that (see my previous post in this thread). I did have another long chat with Upstairs about this last week, & I'm afraid I made no progress at all. It's all too long & convoluted to explain the "why", & I'm not sure I understand it myself, but it is what it is, & I can't do any more than I have. There is a reason, fair to say, & I don't really understand it, equally fair to add. I have the same convo with them periodically, have done since the Forum opened, & will continue to do so as & when appropriate for as long as I'm around. It's not the end of the world really, but it would definitely help brighten this place up, as would even the most basic things like emoticons & card graphics. All things come (eventually) to those who wait, or so I'm told, so fingers crossed we'll sort it eventually. At this rate, I'll be a pensioner before it happens. Posted by Tikay10
That's brilliant news Tikay, I never expected it be so soon.
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Pics are still pending from a few threads. Think concentrating on ukops though
Hi Phantom.
Can't disagree, it is a bit of a nuisance, no doubt about it.
This is one of those oddities that even I don't really understand. I have asked the question on numerous occasions over the last 6 or 7 years, but I'm still not clear exactly why it is the problem it seems to be.
It seems to be a policy thing as to photographs. I have a Forum elsewhere, it has over 2 million posts on it, & any registered Member can upload a photo without seeking approval. In 10 years, we have had just ONE violation of trust, but I'm sure Sky Poker has good reason.
I don't even know exactly whom the decision & responsibility rests with, & I've been here since before the Forum - or even the poker site - even started. I THINK it sits outside the Poker Team, somewhere in SB&G generally, but I honestly don't know exactly where.
I was with JP in Punta Cana last week, & in seniority terms, we are in a different world, he's a Serious Suit, & I'm the sponge boy, but he could not upload photos, & I could. Go figure that one.
I can upload photos without approval, which I'm grateful for, but, even odder, I can't approve other people's photographs, even though I have sort of enhanced Admin Rights on the Community.
So at present, approval sits with Dan - who has been off work, unwell, for a month or more. In his absence, I guess it falls to Sam, who has his hands more than full in Dan's absence, what with UKOPS, another forward project due to be announced in the next few days, & some other stuff. Yes, "instant" Community photographs would be nice - they SO enhance a Forum - but as a Priority, fair to say, right now it's hardly top of the list.
I'll ask again, when I next speak to Sir Senior Suit.
It is a nuisance, I agree, but not the end of the world.
I'll try & give you an update after I've spoken to The Man.
You answered some of this on JJs thread in that you need "back room" access to be able to approve a photo which means while you have moderator access for posts - you cannot approve photos.
We also know that sky poker are 50% down in terms of the people who have such access rights and regularly check the forum.
However it would really still be much better for the forum if people could upload photos without them needing to be approved at all.
I can't think of another forum or social media system where photo moderation is required in advance. At best it really slows down interaction. The workaround is to put a link to a photo share website in which case sky poker are driving people AWAY from their own website. At worst it just stops people bothering to use this medium at all.
Can the rules be adjusted so that all posters are trusted to upload photos? Or maybe posters who have been on the forum for a set amount of time, or number of posts?
Obviously any abuse would need to be swiftly acted upon. There is already a report abuse button and existing moderators can close a thread/delete a whole post if needed.
I know you are in favour of this, just wondering if there is either a definitive reason why it is not possible or absolute confirmation that the suits will never entertain it. In which case I'll quit asking.
Can't actually disagree with a word of that (see my previous post in this thread).
I did have another long chat with Upstairs about this last week, & I'm afraid I made no progress at all. It's all too long & convoluted to explain the "why", & I'm not sure I understand it myself, but it is what it is, & I can't do any more than I have. There is a reason, fair to say, & I don't really understand it, equally fair to add.
I have the same convo with them periodically, have done since the Forum opened, & will continue to do so as & when appropriate for as long as I'm around.
It's not the end of the world really, but it would definitely help brighten this place up, as would even the most basic things like emoticons & card graphics.
All things come (eventually) to those who wait, or so I'm told, so fingers crossed we'll sort it eventually. At this rate, I'll be a pensioner before it happens.