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stokefc · July 2015

i conna post me hands well ive cnp on IE and it posted over the whole post not in the thread this pc is proper £$%ked

edit:i give up

bh semi

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rodney2007	Small blind		100.00	100.00	1790.00
ipe3	Big blind		200.00	300.00	1336.25
	Your hole cards	Q Q
stokefc	All-in		1932.50	2232.50	0.00
metapro	Raise		3665.00	5897.50	3006.25
1nitro1	Fold
BigCes	Fold
rodney2007	Fold
ipe3	Fold
metapro	Unmatched bet		1732.50	4165.00	4738.75
stokefc	Show	Q Q
metapro	Show	K K
Flop
		8 3 J
Turn
		4
River
		A
metapro	Win	Pair of Kings	4165.00

715 deepy

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BillyWiz68	Small blind		100.00	100.00	12565.00
GILLS69	Big blind		200.00	300.00	5002.50
	Your hole cards	Q Q
stokefc	Raise		600.00	900.00	2795.00
pestmick	Fold
general63	Fold
baker43	Fold
BillyWiz68	Fold
GILLS69	Raise		1400.00	2300.00	3602.50
stokefc	All-in		2795.00	5095.00	0.00
GILLS69	Call		1795.00	6890.00	1807.50
GILLS69	Show	K K
stokefc	Show	Q Q
Flop
		9 7 A
Turn
		9
River
		A
GILLS69	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and Kings	6890.00

rewards fr

has

Flop
stokefc	Small blind		30.00	30.00	2055.00
Triumph62	Big blind		60.00	90.00	1107.50
	Your hole cards	Q Q
nichols06	Call		60.00	150.00	4752.50
maddie05	Fold
ROBBIE762	Fold
Monty71	Fold
stokefc	Raise		210.00	360.00	1845.00
Triumph62	Raise		360.00	720.00	747.50
nichols06	Call		360.00	1080.00	4392.50
stokefc	All-in		1845.00	2925.00	0.00
Triumph62	All-in		747.50	3672.50	0.00
nichols06	Call		1665.00	5337.50	2727.50
stokefc	Show	Q Q
Triumph62	Show	J J
nichols06	Show	10 A
		9 3 A
Turn
		5
River
		6
nichols06	Win	Pair of Aces	5337.50

the mini

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
kalooki8	Small blind		150.00	150.00	4070.00
stokefc	Big blind		300.00	450.00	3825.00
	Your hole cards	J J
Dramsay	Fold
colin1962	Fold
Rumpy	Raise		900.00	1350.00	4265.00
kalooki8	Fold
stokefc	All-in		3825.00	5175.00	0.00
Rumpy	Call		3225.00	8400.00	1040.00
stokefc	Show	J J
Rumpy	Show	K K
Flop
		7 Q 3
Turn
		10
River
		6
Rumpy	Win	Pair of Kings	8400.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
kalooki8	Small blind		150.00	150.00	4070.00
stokefc	Big blind		300.00	450.00	3825.00
	Your hole cards	https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif) 1px 100% no-repeat #ffffff" class="club">J https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif) 1px 100% no-repeat #ffffff" class="diamond">J
Dramsay	Fold
colin1962	Fold
https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/hhdealer.gif') 100% 100% no-repeat transparent" class="dealer">Rumpy	Raise		900.00	1350.00	4265.00
kalooki8	Fold
stokefc	All-in		3825.00	5175.00	0.00
Rumpy	Call		3225.00	8400.00	1040.00
stokefc	Show	https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/club.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="club">J https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="diamond">J
Rumpy	Show	https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/spade.gif) 1px 100% no-repeat #ffffff" class="spade">K https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif) 1px 100% no-repeat #ffffff" class="heart">K
Flop
		https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="diamond">7 https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="heart">Q https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="heart">3
Turn
		https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/heart.gif) 1px 100% no-repeat #ffffff" class="heart">10
River
		https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/diamond.gif'); background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat" class="diamond">6
Rumpy	Win	Pair of Kings	8400.00		9440.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
kalooki8	Small blind		150.00	150.00	4070.00
stokefc	Big blind		300.00	450.00	3825.00
	Your hole cards	J J
Dramsay	Fold
colin1962	Fold
Rumpy	Raise		900.00	1350.00	4265.00
kalooki8	Fold
stokefc	All-in		3825.00	5175.00	0.00
Rumpy	Call		3225.00	8400.00	1040.00
stokefc	Show	J J
Rumpy	Show	K K
Flop
		7 Q 3
Turn
		10
River
		6
Rumpy	Win	Pair of Kings	8400.00

finally,this refers to the other thread which I conna access for some reason

so im gonna win the main tonight

if i can get thru the semi

Benchmark · August 2015

You've took one he'll of a beating there. Is going all-in the right move?

Hand 1 - Personally, I'd have preferred a 4BB opening bet. Mid pos may still force you all-in. If not, the flop is a bit messy. With the turn AND the river being bricks, I can't see a way around this one. Mid position is going to force you all-in at any point, to avoid you making a hand. Can you ever lay down QQ? I think Sam Grafton can. The only real chance you had was to go all-in post-flop, after an opening 4BB raise. Could MP risk you hadn't opened with pocket jacks and hit a set? It's the only plausible hand beating them. It would worry me.

F_Ivanovic · August 2015

@ Bench: Why are you raising 4bb's in hand 1? The only reason to raise 4bb in hand 1 is as an exploitative play. ie. Someone might call 4bb with a worse hand but will fold to a shove. We shouldn't be raising almost half our stack pf with any intention of ever folding post-flop. Shipping pre is completely fine - we can get called by worse still and if not, we at least pick up the blinds.

We could also consider a m-r (or 2.2-2.5x) sizing pf in the hope of inducing shoves from worse.

edit@ unlucky stoke anyway. All pretty standard coolers - the only thing to suggest is maybe be a bit more aggressive in the mid-stages to avoid being short stacked all the time - I don't know if you are or not, but when you constantly are GII with a small stack even though you can be favourite (or not, in the case of running into coolers), it's hard to keep winning them all ins.

Benchmark · August 2015

I can see that bet is too big, compared to stack size. I guess the answer is, you have to be prepared to lose with big hands. I'm not sure Stokefc is happy with that.

stokefc · August 2015

In Response to Re: huh:

@ Bench: Why are you raising 4bb's in hand 1? The only reason to raise 4bb in hand 1 is as an exploitative play. ie. Someone might call 4bb with a worse hand but will fold to a shove. We shouldn't be raising almost half our stack pf with any intention of ever folding post-flop. Shipping pre is completely fine - we can get called by worse still and if not, we at least pick up the blinds. We could also consider a m-r (or 2.2-2.5x) sizing pf in the hope of inducing shoves from worse. edit@ unlucky stoke anyway. All pretty standard coolers - the only thing to suggest is maybe be a bit more aggressive in the mid-stages to avoid being short stacked all the time - I don't know if you are or not, but when you constantly are GII with a small stack even though you can be favourite (or not, in the case of running into coolers), it's hard to keep winning them all ins.
Posted by F_Ivanovic

thx fred,i do try to build up a stack early to mid tourny i think its been part of the downswing while trying to build i am getting coolerd at those points of the tourny meaning im getting short to the point of shoving with 10/11 bigs.

i dont know if its right or wrong but personnally i always shove when down to 10 bigs with 10,j +

i think i made the right choices in the hands above it just wasnt my night that night

feeling better now tho had small cashes in mega on friday plus small cashes in the mini and the 250 gtd on satdee,knew it would turn,just need a big score now:)

HENDRIK62 · August 2015

In Response to Re: huh:

In Response to Re: huh : thx fred,i do try to build up a stack early to mid tourny i think its been part of the downswing while trying to build i am getting coolerd at those points of the tourny meaning im getting short to the point of shoving with 10/11 bigs. i dont know if its right or wrong but personnally i always shove when down to 10 bigs with 10,j + i think i made the right choices in the hands above it just wasnt my night that night feeling better now tho had small cashes in mega on friday plus small cashes in the mini and the 250 gtd on satdee,knew it would turn,just need a big score now:)
Posted by stokefc

Hey Stoke,

Doesn't relate directly to the posted hands (but it does relate to the emboldened bit), I shared tables with you in Fridays mega, thought your timing and plays were good, you kept active and stayed aggro approaching the bubble, kept your stack above the waterline and gave yourself plenty options.

Tikay10 · August 2015

MattBates · August 2015

In Response to Re: huh:

You've took one he'll of a beating there. Is going all-in the right move? Hand 1 - Personally, I'd have preferred a 4BB opening bet. Mid pos may still force you all-in. If not, the flop is a bit messy. With the turn AND the river being bricks, I can't see a way around this one. Mid position is going to force you all-in at any point, to avoid you making a hand. Can you ever lay down QQ? I think Sam Grafton can. The only real chance you had was to go all-in post-flop, after an opening 4BB raise. Could MP risk you hadn't opened with pocket jacks and hit a set? It's the only plausible hand beating them. It would worry me.
Posted by Benchmark

Why would you be 4x opening? Are you seriously suggesting raise folding QQ off 10bb? In these spots its not about being results orientated (eg our opponent had KK). We want to be jamming our entire opening range and will pick up the blinds a lot. We are in good shape against a lot of the hands that call us. I dont understand the Sam Grafton can fold QQ comment, in a sat with 10bb (assuming we dont have a seat locked) I can assure you Sam is shoving all in!

Stoke, the hands are played correctly. As frustrating as it is, that is all that matters. Sometimes big hand walks into bigger hand. I wouldnt lose any sleep over those hands, there will be a load of hands to spend time on before looking at those ones. Chin up, move on and bink big soon!

stokefc · August 2015

thx matt

yeah i find when down to 10/15 bigs it the easy part of the game im quite aggressive when i get that shallow

i know i need to work more early to mid tourny

im not the best of players but can hold my own sometimes i basically play free poker or it costs about £150/200 p/a

which is fine for a hobby

the hands above were just a culmination of a bad 2 or 3 weeks but i know how it is and how things can change so quickly,don't think ive posted hands like the above before it normally goes over my head and think meh on to the next one but i actually felt tilt which i never have, weird it was i can tell ya

would love to bink a score someday but like yourself i have to work and work hard to be consistent at this beautiful game of cards,thx for the positives m8 much appreciated

great pic Tikay

huh

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