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ICM suicide?

GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,202
edited December 2021 in Strategy
last 4 of a turbo live game, 8 paid.

UTG - 2BB folds
Button - 16BB folds
SB - 7BB shoves
BB - 7BB calls

what range can the BB call with? SB is a solid player but he knows his ranges and the value of ICM, both to himself but also to me. UTG only has 2 bigs and is in the BB next hand. But he has been like that for the last twenty minutes! In game I called with KJ and lost. In hindsight it should be an easy fold. But what is the right calling range?


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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,112
    edited August 2015
    In Response to ICM suicide?:
    last 4 of a turbo live game, 8 paid. UTG - 2BB folds Button - 16BB folds SB - 7BB shoves BB - 7BB calls what range can the BB call with? SB is a solid player but he knows his ranges and the value of ICM, both to himself but also to me. UTG only has 2 bigs and is in the BB next hand. But he has been like that for the last twenty minutes! In game I called with KJ and lost. In hindsight it should be an easy fold. But what is the right calling range?
    Posted by GELDY
    No "right" calling range, but I am snap calling with KJ-probably anything above average, ie above Q 7
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    rspca12rspca12 Member Posts: 618
    edited August 2015
    ok alot to think about in this one. u say sb is shoving correct range so something like this 
    22+ Jx+ T2s+ T4o+ 92s+ 95o+ 83s+ 86o+ 73s+ 75o+ 63s+ 65o 53s+ 43s
    this is the correct shoving range with 7 bb according to nash shoving ranges. i personal think this is a bit wrong to live game and think his range will be 
    22+ ax k5+ q10+ 54s+ 
    think this is more acq range for live game maybe bit tight but correct imo. the correct calling range to have 50% eq is 44+ a4s+ k10+ a7o+ kjo+ so kj not to bd. but with icm without noing the pay jumps its difficult to give a acq range. but lets say u wont to be 58% against his range so making decent money from the call. its saying 88+ a10s+ajo+. my personal range will be 66+ a9o+ a8s+ kjs+  kqo+. if the structure is very top heavy then a much wider call is fine.

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