Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT

lyonsbob06

Got Heads up in the Ukops 5 main event bounty hunter before and during the heads up my computer froze or internet went down and had to be rebooted. By the time I got back the villan had stole all my chips as fast as he could (about 30bb) and now has the win and a UKOPS braclett. 

I know I would have waited as would most of the people in this community. Just my rotten luck for it to happen when playing this particular player. Gutting feeling and I wouldn't like to win an even like that to be honest

acky1985

There was a few of us there telling him to run the clock and wait for u bud but he just was hitting the raise as quick as he pos  could so bad sorry and wp acky

lyonsbob06

Thank you mate I've got over the initial shock of it happening now and thanks for trying to get him to do the right thing. With the rail saying it is a matter of time before I win might have jinxed me somewhat lol 

Obviously ran well to get HU but just dissappointed in him is all but no rules against it I suppose. Think sky should stamp on his UKOPS bracelett a few times before sending it to him thou ;-) Not that I'm bitter ;-)

Benchmark

Can't wait to hear his stories of how he 'took it down'....

tomo_efc

Sorry to hear this m8, but your young and strong enough to win another, just not this satuday when i'll be playing.

Sir-Gary

Well done anyway it was a good achievement. Your opponent of course does not have to wait for you and whether he should is open to different interpretations. I used to wait until one day I reached HU in a tournament and the Internet was playing up a bit that night. My opponent got disconnected and I just kept slow playing and folding my small blind for about 10-15minutes till they got reconnected. Shortly after I was disconnected for about 5 minutes and came back to see I was no longer chip leader but all in on the big blind. Should I have waited ? Should I wait next time ?

churchy18

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

Well done anyway it was a good achievement. Your opponent of course does not have to wait for you and whether he should is open to different interpretations. I used to wait until one day I reached HU in a tournament and the Internet was playing up a bit that night. My opponent got disconnected and I just kept slow playing and folding my small blind for about 10-15minutes till they got reconnected. Shortly after I was disconnected for about 5 minutes and came back to see I was no longer chip leader but all in on the big blind. Should I have waited ? Should I wait next time ?
Posted by Sir-Gary

Snap happened too me before had waited on the guy heads up started taking his blinds after 10 mins waiting he then came back so told him too reraise me and gave him chips back then i get booted and come back and have 2 bbs left since then i give them a minute or 2 then start taking unless its is someone i know would wait/restore my chips if it happened too me   

In dyms i never wait as no one ever waits when i get booted.

Think there is more people that say they would wait than there is that actually do.

Lambert180

Yeah deffo Churchy. Obv it's just a guess but I'd say the number of people that would actually wait is <1% of the players on the site. Also, some of that <1% probably only do it because they're well known in the community etc so fear being slammed for not waiting. Anonymity is a wonderful thing

Personally, I'd fully expect it to be done to me, so would do the same back, cynical maybe, but meh. 

There are a few regs that I deffo know from experience have and/or would wait (I'm sure there are lots more but the ones that come to mind are Bates and TommyD) so if I was HU v them I'd wait too, but against 99% of sky player base, I'd probably allow a vv small window (less than a minute) then just be stealing.

Grim to be on the receiving end of it, but vwp on getting 2nd lyonsbob

ALLEYKITTY

would u give a random man in the street £2000 lyon? I do feel for u it's a real bad way to lose, has happened to me in past but in much smaller amounts have cursed at the player but ultimately i can not blame them.

£2000 is a awful lot of money there are many reasons why he could desperatly need the money u just don't know, slow rolling IMO is far worse etiquette 

GELDY

Unlucky

But vwp

Not everyone can be a TommyD

Funny though, if you are playing a dym, it is regarded as bad form if you don't attack a disco-ed player. I actually got chat abuse from someone when I suggested I'd continue to play vs the others! 

Darkangel7

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

Unlucky But vwp Not everyone can be a TommyD Funny though, if you are playing a dym, it is regarded as bad form if you don't attack a disco-ed player. I actually got chat abuse from someone when I suggested I'd continue to play vs the others! 
Posted by GELDY

Think in DYM though G there is an unwritten rule if there's 3 of you left and the 4th ones away just fold till eventually get them out. Have known it the other way though where 4 was left 1 was away and one of the players was determined to get first and others got aggro and went with them so it sort of back fired.

Vul Michael, wp though

POKERTREV

I don't need to be disconnected for you lot to steel my chips haha


I would wait though & have waited - several mins in fact. On the odd occasion I wished I hadn't as I ended up in 2nd place, but good sportsmanship means more to me than the money.

On average it takes 5mins for a pc &/or broadband box to re-boot, so if oppo ain't back after that, I think we are good to steel in the knowledge that at least we did our best to wait for a while.

jordz16

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

I don't need to be disconnected for you lot to steel my chips haha I would wait though & have waited - several mins in fact. On the odd occasion I wished I hadn't as I ended up in 2nd place, but good sportsmanship means more to me than the money. On average it takes 5mins for a pc &/or broadband box to re-boot, so if oppo ain't back after that, I think we are good to steel in the knowledge that at least we did our best to wait for a while.
Posted by POKERTREV

Oh the irony

FeelGroggy

Very unlucky to disconnect heads up, the only thing worse than getting a bad beat HU is not getting the opportunity to play.

I'm very impressed by the morality of people waiting on their disconnected opponent, but for me i'd instantly be in there stealing their blinds and would expect them to do the same to me. 

If a player is playing too tight do you not take advantage of this by playing aggressive? All your doing is using the best strategy to beat your opponent, as we should be doing heads up. At the end of the day it isn't your opponent's fault you've disconnected so you can't blame them for taking advantage. Still a very bitter pill to swallow, hopefully you'll get another shot HU in a ukops main.

aussie09

i am reminded of greghogg.

many years ago greg waited in this same situation.

i saw his name again just recently too.

GaryQQQ

Very unlucky. Disconnections are part of the variance of online poker. That was a particularly cruel time for one to strike.

Suggestion; have a smartphone with the mobile app installed as a back-up device when playing big money tournaments on Sky Poker. If your PC crashes or your wifi goes down at a crucial moment you can fire-up the table fairly quickly and continue to play via the mobile network.

FeelGroggy

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

Very unlucky. Disconnections are part of the variance of online poker. That was a particularly cruel time for one to strike. Suggestion; have a smartphone with the mobile app installed as a back-up device when playing big money tournaments on Sky Poker. If your PC crashes or your wifi goes down at a crucial moment you can fire-up the table fairly quickly and continue to play via the mobile network.
Posted by GaryQQQ

+1 A guy in the Sunday Million anniversarry disconnected during the final table so used their phone and ended up winning over $800,000 when they made a deal with him as chip leader

lyonsbob06

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

Very unlucky. Disconnections are part of the variance of online poker. That was a particularly cruel time for one to strike. Suggestion; have a smartphone with the mobile app installed as a back-up device when playing big money tournaments on Sky Poker. If your PC crashes or your wifi goes down at a crucial moment you can fire-up the table fairly quickly and continue to play via the mobile network.
Posted by GaryQQQ

Yeah just one of those things unfortunately. Also I had my phone right there next to me and it didn't occur to ne to use it untill after the event.......expensive mistake

lyonsbob06

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

Well done anyway it was a good achievement. Your opponent of course does not have to wait for you and whether he should is open to different interpretations. I used to wait until one day I reached HU in a tournament and the Internet was playing up a bit that night. My opponent got disconnected and I just kept slow playing and folding my small blind for about 10-15minutes till they got reconnected. Shortly after I was disconnected for about 5 minutes and came back to see I was no longer chip leader but all in on the big blind. Should I have waited ? Should I wait next time ?
Posted by Sir-Gary

Hi Gary this was exactly what I was thinking. Do I just steal next time as he had done or go with what I would normally do and give them a few mins to reconnect. This has happened where I have waited for my opponent before (in much smaller games) and I hope I would do the same even now but always circumstances will dictate that as if it was against this players again I would ofc steal as fast as I could. Against anyone else unless I know they are a bad egg I would give them a few mins.

lyonsbob06

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

Yeah deffo Churchy. Obv it's just a guess but I'd say the number of people that would actually wait is <1% of the players on the site. Also, some of that <1% probably only do it because they're well known in the community etc so fear being slammed for not waiting. Anonymity is a wonderful thing Personally, I'd fully expect it to be done to me, so would do the same back, cynical maybe, but meh.  There are a few regs that I deffo know from experience have and/or would wait (I'm sure there are lots more but the ones that come to mind are Bates and TommyD) so if I was HU v them I'd wait too, but against 99% of sky player base, I'd probably allow a vv small window (less than a minute) then just be stealing. Grim to be on the receiving end of it, but vwp on getting 2nd lyonsbob

Posted by Lambert180

Hi Paul I think your wrong about how many people would openly steal. I think a large percentage of people I've met thru sky would wait at least a few minutes. Probably wouldnt wait on other sites but I think sky is a bit diffetent.

Just one of those things that happened this time thou and at least I havnt got myself to blame for blowing the Heads up myself

Tikay10

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT:

In Response to Re: Gutted with the Etiquette shown Heads up in the UKOPS 5 Main evenT : Hi Paul I think your wrong about how many people would openly steal. I think a large percentage of people I've met thru sky would wait at least a few minutes. Probably wouldnt wait on other sites but I think sky is a bit diffetent. Just one of those things that happened this time thou and at least I havnt got myself to blame for blowing the Heads up myself
Posted by lyonsbob06

Agree - I'd expect the figure on Sky Poker to be close to 50%, as I still retain faith in most people's basic decency. For "pros" of course, they use a different moral compass, & are, I suppose, entitled so to do.