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Making the jump from small to big

fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
edited December 2015 in Poker Chat
Been playing on Sky for a while now, doing Ok' ish
Built up a reasonable Bankroll
Got a ROI of 19%
ITM 44%
Been playing mainly low satkes £2 / £5 MTT (Mostly Bounty Hunter)
Stuggling to make the jump to Main Event Tournaments, finding a lot of the players even more randon / loose than on the small buy in MTT's.
Could be just me ?
Anybody elses experience & feedback would be appreciated
Thanks
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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited December 2015
    Firstly well done on the impressive results.. I think the ITM must be a little off as cashing in 44% is unheard of, even 20% would be amazing. firstly I would ask how many main events have you played? I think you would need to have played about 50 before you can have a very rough idea of how you are getting on. My 2 main pieces of advice would be to play the exact same way you would in the smaller MTT's and ignore the money up top, and also to post a few hands you have played into the poker clinic session for other people to look at, they way you can get other peoples opinions and it might improve your thinking process in certain situations. 

    run well!
  • ALTiltYouALTiltYou Member Posts: 174
    edited December 2015
    , start by trying to sat into mains not buy straight in as by the sounds of it your bankroll won't be enough to regularly play mains and can start playing bad as it will be scared money. Difference between mains/ £22+ and £5 mtts is in the later stages of the big ones you usually come up against regulars and great players un like £5 ones I find final tables a lot of the time on small ones full of people I've never seen. On a £22 tournament I just found myself sat on a final table with wacko90 and bearleyther which makes it tougher to ladder up and take them down. 
  • ALTiltYouALTiltYou Member Posts: 174
    edited December 2015
    Also I see on sharkscope your itm is 43% is that all mtt on there or have you played sit and Gos or HU? Might help resetting your ss so you see your actual mtt stats by upgrading 
  • RLT16RLT16 Member Posts: 1,433
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    Also I see on sharkscope your itm is 43% is that all mtt on there or have you played sit and Gos or HU? Might help resetting your ss so you see your actual mtt stats by upgrading 
    Posted by ALTiltYou
    you can change the search paramenters on the site to search for only scheduled Mtt's which he still has a very impressive ITM %
  • fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015
    Thanks for the feedback
    I normally do try to satelite in to the main event which I have done a few times, and as RLT16 saaid my ITM is good for the MTT's I play.
    I just seem to find it hard to read the players in the £33 Bounty Hunter Main Events and I've no idea why. Still play my usual game bot only ITM once.
    As jordz 16 mentioned maybe I do need to play more games at that level, I've played more than a dozen.
    50 seems a lot, and I know obviosley there are better players. But I seem to get donk called more, with people respecting bets less and fishing.
    Don't think I need to change my game too much, I hope ? Maybe it is just pracice and getting notes on certain players
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited December 2015


    hi man,

    for 2015, in the 175 major mtts you've played, your are ITM 14%.  your ROI is not positive.

    if i were to give some feedback on your figures, as you ask, i think you are generally doing the right thing already.  the tweaks would be to less aggro and more final table orientated, then be more aggro.  timing.

    good luck.





  • ALTiltYouALTiltYou Member Posts: 174
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    hi man, for 2015, in the 175 major mtts you've played, your are ITM 14%.  your ROI is not positive. if i were to give some feedback on your figures, as you ask, i think you are generally doing the right thing already.  the tweaks would be to less aggro and more final table orientated, then be more aggro.  timing. good luck.
    Posted by aussie09
    Aussie can you do the same for me 2015 and let me know what mine is as I cannot do it. Thanks
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big : Aussie can you do the same for me 2015 and let me know what mine is as I cannot do it. Thanks
    Posted by ALTiltYou
    pleasure mate...

    you've played 60 major tournaments in 2015 and have cashed in 28%.  this is excellent, without doubt.  also good is your ROI which is 3%



  • fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015
    Hi aussie
    Thanks for the reply
    What are major MTT's ? I've only played the main event a few times.
    As mentioned i normally play small buy in MTT's
    Thanks
  • ALTiltYouALTiltYou Member Posts: 174
    edited December 2015
    Thanks Aussie much appreciated. How do you find out, sign up to ss?
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    Hi aussie Thanks for the reply What are major MTT's ? I've only played the main event a few times. As mentioned i normally play small buy in MTT's Thanks
    Posted by fathenry
    hi henry

    the major mtts are those with a guarantee of £500 or more.  there are 20 or so every day..  there have been 7,193 so far this year.  you've played in 175 of them.



  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    Thanks Aussie much appreciated. How do you find out, sign up to ss?
    Posted by ALTiltYou

    hi alt,

    updated daily, you can see here...

    http://www.pokersuperhero.com/villaina.html



  • fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015
    Thanks
    But I don't get you figures
    Checked on Sharkscope for Scheduled tournaments Sky Poker
    Av ROI 30.9
    ITM 32.9
    How do you get your figures
    Thanks

  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited December 2015


    hi henry

    the results are for the major mtts you've played this year. 

    you cashed in 25 of the 175 you've played, which is 14%

    you've spent £1,159 in entry fees and returns of £987.  minus 15% ROI.

     

     
  • FeelGroggyFeelGroggy Member Posts: 843
    edited December 2015
    Hi FatHenry. As Jordz said a 44% cash rate is very good- i would argue perhaps too good. Maybe your being too risk averse going for mincashes as opposed to winning mtt's, remember all the money is in the top spots. 
    There's so much variance in mtt's its hard to know if a certain stake is profitable for you without a good sample. with that in mind I would advise moving up to and being a winning player at £11 mtt's before going down the main event route.
    Gl at the tables
  • fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    hi henry the results are for the 60 major ntts you've played this year.  you cashed in 25 of the 175 you've played, which is 14% you've spent £1,159 in entry fees and returns of £987.  minus 15% ROI.  
    Posted by aussie09

    I think you need to look at your figures ?
    I know I'm in profit
    Sharkscope shows profit
    Where on earth do you get you figures from ?
  • ALTiltYouALTiltYou Member Posts: 174
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big : I think you need to look at your figures ? I know I'm in profit Sharkscope shows profit Where on earth do you get you figures from ?
    Posted by fathenry
    He means in tournaments over£500 gaurenteed. If you reg £5 mtts most of them only hit 400 or lower. Obviously depending on the time,of day you play these. 
  • fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    Hi FatHenry. As Jordz said a 44% cash rate is very good- i would argue perhaps too good. Maybe your being too risk averse going for mincashes as opposed to winning mtt's, remember all the money is in the top spots.  There's so much variance in mtt's its hard to know if a certain stake is profitable for you without a good sample. with that in mind I would advise moving up to and being a winning player at £11 mtt's before going down the main event route. Gl at the tables
    Posted by FeelGroggy

    Thanks
    I'll give the £11 MTT's a go, that may be the best route
  • fathenryfathenry Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big : He means in tournaments over£500 gaurenteed. If you reg £5 mtts most of them only hit 400 or lower. Obviously depending on the time,of day you play these. 
    Posted by ALTiltYou

    Ok
    Like I said mostly Play £2 / £5 MTT's less than £500
    When I have played £30 MTT's I've satallited through for £1.44, I guess that might explain the difference
  • CraigSG1CraigSG1 Member Posts: 1,832
    edited December 2015
    In Response to Re: Making the jump from small to big:
    Firstly well done on the impressive results.. I think the ITM must be a little off as cashing in 44% is unheard of, even 20% would be amazing. firstly I would ask how many main events have you played? I think you would need to have played about 50 before you can have a very rough idea of how you are getting on. My 2 main pieces of advice would be to play the exact same way you would in the smaller MTT's and ignore the money up top, and also to post a few hands you have played into the poker clinic session for other people to look at, they way you can get other peoples opinions and it might improve your thinking process in certain situations.  run well!
    Posted by jordz16
    Hi.

    Could you or Aussie09 who really understand these things help me. My ITM in 40.1% in a count of 3,946 games. I would appreciate if you could go through my stats and tell me what you think so I can try and improve areas of my game. For example, is a 40.1% ITM good stats wise or an indication im too passive? i.e. Dont 'go for the win' etc.

    Honest assesment would be appreciated. Thanks.
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