MBI - Calling Range in BB v 8bb Jam

Lambert180

This is the MBI, or £55 Speed BH as some may know it...

We are 5/14 iirc, in that region anyway, 5 paid.

X is a reg, I'd describe them as being on the loose side of regs for Sky.

What's the worst hand you call with here/what range do you call?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
wi03	Small blind		600.00	600.00	18275.00
Lambert180	Big blind		1200.00	1800.00	13502.00
	Your hole cards
jakealex	Fold
X	All-in		9852.00	11652.00	0.00
goodylad21	Fold
wi03	Fold
Lambert180	All-in		13502.00	25154.00	0.00

bearlyther

i like a call here with qj

FeelGroggy

 Maybe something like A4s+ A6+ QJs+ KJ+ K9s+ all pairs. Not amazing on push fold ranges though :-)

Essexphil

In Response to Re: MBI - Calling Range in BB v 8bb Jam:

 Maybe something like A4s+ A6+ QJs+ KJ+ K9s+ all pairs. Not amazing on push fold ranges though :-)
Posted by FeelGroggy

I'm a little tighter-A8s/A10/KQ/33 plus...

RLT16

I'm probably to tight in these situations, which I guess is down to my dym grinding, but I'd call here with 77+, a7s+, a10+, KJ+

FeelGroggy

To me 'loose reg' implies they're jamming very wide, as regs are jamming wider than average opponent anyway which is why I would call wider here than others might suggest. Otherwise I would definitely be similar to what others are suggesting

thisltedu

I'm curious about the calling with low pairs, even against a loose reg. I'd be happy to shove them with 8BBs because of fold equity but calling against overcards or over pairs? Does the money in the middle make the difference? If so at what point does it become +EV to call with a low pair? Great question Paul.

GELDY

22 is 50% to win vs atc

while lambie has to invest 8652 to win 11652 which is 4:3

= +ev

thisltedu

In Response to Re: MBI - Calling Range in BB v 8bb Jam:

22 is 50% to win vs atc while lambie has to invest 8652 to win 11652 which is 4:3 = +ev
Posted by GELDY

Thanks for that Geldy - much appreciated.

F_Ivanovic

In Response to Re: MBI - Calling Range in BB v 8bb Jam:

I'm curious about the calling with low pairs, even against a loose reg. I'd be happy to shove them with 8BBs because of fold equity but calling against overcards or over pairs? Does the money in the middle make the difference? If so at what point does it become +EV to call with a low pair? Great question Paul.
Posted by thisltedu

Depends how small a pair and how wide villain is shoving.

Assuming a wide(ish) range of A2s+, JTs+, QJ+, KQ+, 22+, 89s, 78s then we should still be folding 22 as it only has 35% equity and we need 42% equity to make a +ev call. 44 is just about a fold with 41.5% and 55 is a clear call at 45% equity.

With 55 we're a good fave against A5-A2 as well as against smaller pairs that villain will be shoving with. So that's where the extra equity comes from. 

Given the range I posted which seems reasonable above I would be calling with QJs+ (folding QJo but calling anything better off-suit) and 55 as said above would be the worst pair I would call with.

FeelGroggy

think with bounty aspect we can justify running it wider  than we would in a freezeout so think any pairs a reasonable call here

F_Ivanovic

In Response to Re: MBI - Calling Range in BB v 8bb Jam:

think with bounty aspect we can justify running it wider  than we would in a freezeout so think any pairs a reasonable call here
Posted by FeelGroggy

We're not too far off the money so we shouldn't be widening our range and making any call that is too -ev. I guess some of it also depends on the size of bounty. vs someone with the min-head prize then we really shouldn't make any call that is more than 1% wrong. But with a big head prize we can justify making maybe a 5-10% -ev call.

MattBates

If we lose it has a really bad effect on our stack and thats more important than the upside of winning a bounty.