JJ line check

grantorino

SB	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£22.76
grantorino	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.50
	Your hole cards	J J
UTG	Fold
MP	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£18.90
CO	Call		£0.60	£1.50	£20.04
BTN	Fold
SB	Call		£0.50	£2.00	£22.26
grantorino	Call		£0.40	£2.40	£19.10
Flop
		8 3 9
SB	Bet		£1.20	£3.60	£21.06
grantorino	Call		£1.20	£4.80	£17.90
MP	Call		£1.20	£6.00	£17.70
CO	Call		£1.20	£7.20	£18.84
Turn
		4
SB	Check
grantorino	Bet		£4.40	£11.60	£13.50
MP	Fold
CO	Call		£4.40	£16.00	£14.44
SB	Fold
River
		J
grantorino	Bet		£11.40	£27.40	£2.10
CO	All-in		£14.44	£41.84	£0.00

opener seems taggy

Should I 3b 100% pre

Anyone raise flop

All comments welcome

mrleemr1

I would 3b pre, my sizing would depend slightly on the other players.

I like how played, checking back all other rivers though I think. I think if we bet any other rivers we should raise flop, and I dont think we should raise flop

rancid

as played raise flop

turn & river is fine

3 bet pre most of the time

radiofed28

Also 3-bet preflop especially with this many guys. You can 3-bet/fold against UTG if they are very tight or something. 

On flop, you can raise if you think SB is a weaker player who leads lots of draws, top pairs etc. You will find some "regs" only lead 2 pair or better here, so it is very player dependent. 

Turn/riv are decent ul if he has the T7 or whatever.

percival09

in most cases, JJ is too strong a hand to consider calling. it simply gets too much value vs nearly any calling range and plays reasonably vs 4bets (any option vs a 4bet is fine and is strongly dependent on opponent, like everything). however, vs a 15-25% open, assuming our opponent is reasonably skilled, we could consider mixing our play / calling more often since opponent is opening a tighter and stronger range, which should in theory reduce our 3betting range and consequently reduce villains defending range, resulting in 3betting JJ losing EV (which makes calling a more attractive option). 

I do think, though, that most players in these games won't be skilled enough to play well, which makes me lean to 3bet even in those situations (which may or may not be justified, idk). in your actual hand, I think 3betting is pretty standard, especially with the dead money in the pot. 

I think all postflop is fine and similar to the other hand that I just commented on, I think the river is a call simply because I think it's too likely that he can be shoving a worse hand (2 pair or set) that he either slow-played or hit otr. 

the flop is interesting and incredibly difficult to accurately dissect since it's a multiway pot and we're relatively clueless about ranges. I would likely call but I don't think raising is bad at all

F_Ivanovic

Jam river. It's less than PSB and if he's calling £11.40 he's calling the rest of it.