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  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
    edited January 2016
    I know I must be wrong and it has totally scrambled my brain but surely when you are grading a low hand you start from the lowest card if both hands are the same
  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,185
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : ;) In fact, 4-5-6-7-8 could win the high. In theory, it could win high and low. Or lose both.....  
    Posted by Tikay10

    Just realised I mis-read Macac's post, hence my confusions.

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    I know I must be wrong and it has totally scrambled my brain but surely when you are grading a low hand you start from the lowest card if both hands are the same
    Posted by weecheez1
    No, you count backwards, from the highest down.

    I think the point you are missing is this, though - your 5 DOES NOT PLAY, as it is counterfeited by the Board. So you don't have a 5 in your hand, effectively.

    3 from the board, 2 from your hand. 
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : Just realised I mis-read Macac's post, hence my confusions.
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    Easily done, she makes no sense to herself, never mind anyone else. We all ignore her. Or try to.
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,233
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : This is where the confusion is arising cheezy. You DON'T both have a 7 low.  (In Maca's example). You can't duplicate the board cards, & the board contained 5-6-7, & no other low cards. So your 5 is a dead card, it has been counterfeited by the board.   So you have 8-A (8 low) & he has 4-2 (7 low). Are you using - & taking notice of - that "Hand Description" option, which actually TELLS YOU what your best High & Low hand is? It really is very helpful to use that until it becomes instinctive.  
    Posted by Tikay10
    I think you misread Teeks, he does have a 7 low but his lowest hole card is 6 oppo has 4
  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,185
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : No, you count backwards, from the highest down. I think the point you are missing is this, though - your 5 DOES NOT PLAY, as it is counterfeited by the Board. So you don't have a 5 in your hand, effectively. 3 from the board, 2 from your hand.   
    Posted by Tikay10

    After reading this (below, from his purpleness) I'd think Weezies hand would win, because his 6 is the 2nd highest (their 2nd highest is a 5). 

    There are only 3 low cards on the board 753

    You have to play your 6 and A

    Your low is a 7 low - 7653A

    Your opponent can play their 4 and 2.

    Therefore their 7 low is 75432

    If you tie on the "highest" low card, the second edit:highest decides who has it and so on.


  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : I think you misread Teeks, he does have a 7 low but his lowest hole card is 6 oppo has 4
    Posted by HENDRIK62
    My lowest hole card has got to be the ace surely
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,233
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : After reading this (below, from his purpleness) I'd think Weezies hand would win, because his 6 is the 2nd highest (their 2nd highest is a 5).
    Posted by NoseyBonk


    5 3 A  is your low hand (weecheez)

    7 5 is his low hand (oppo)

    So you can see when we work backwards from 8 we hit your card first so you have a worse low

    highlighted cards are each players low hole cards
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,233
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : My lowest hole card has got to be the ace surely
    Posted by weecheez1

    i used to make this mistake all the time, it works back from 8 downwards your 'highest' low card plays first
  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,185
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : 7  6  5 3  A   is your low hand (weecheez) 7 5  4  3  2  is his low hand (oppo) So you can see when we work backwards from 8 we hit your card first so you have a worse low highlighted cards are each players low hole cards
    Posted by HENDRIK62

    Okay, thank you.

    I think I misinterpreted "the second edit:highest decides who has it" 

    I interpreted "has it" as wins it.

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
    edited January 2016


    Blimey, we are all getting confused now.

    Count BACKWARDS from the 8 down.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
    edited January 2016


    Or, even better, USE THE HAND DESCRIPTION OPTION in the software.
  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : i used to make this mistake all the time, it works back from 8 downwards your 'highest' low card plays first
    Posted by HENDRIK62
    Thanks hendrik I see it now it only took me a day lol going to lie down in a dark room 
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited January 2016
    mmmm, i think another example might help.

    weecheez hand A238
    my hand 3456
    board A279

    weecheez low hand is A2378 (you are using 3 and 8 from your hand, the A and 2 you hold are duplicated on the board so can't be used)
    my low hand is A2347 (I am using A-2-7 from the board and 3-4 from my cards)

    I win the low because my highest card is a 7 and yours is an 8.

    Does that help?



  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    mmmm, i think another example might help. weecheez hand A238 my hand 3456 board A279 weecheez low hand is A2378 (you are using 3 and 8 from your hand, the A and 2 you hold are duplicated on the board so can't be used) my low hand is A2347 (I am using A-2-7 from the board and 3-4 from my cards) I win the low because my highest card is a 7 and yours is an 8. Does that help?
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    Thanks macca hendrik explained it better in the event of a tie it's your highest of your two hole cards that count first I was counting the lowest first
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
    edited January 2016


    Or in Mac's second example, Maca has the nut low, as she holds 3-4 on a board that is A-2-7-9. So 3-4 MUST be the nuts, nothing lower is possible.  
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : Easily done, she makes no sense to herself, never mind anyone else. We all ignore her. Or try to.
    Posted by Tikay10

     
    Kiss my twiglet.
    I could teach a monkey to play O8, cheezy sure ain't no monkey, so we'll get there.

    ps. Interesting fact about apes. They are entering a stone age, just as humans did years ago. Before we know it, Planet Of The Apes will become a reality. Shouldn't take too long in some parts to be fair. Have you ever seen how the youth of today walk about, their general posture? Manchester for example looks like a mass of shaved apes in human clothes.
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: idiots guide:
    In Response to Re: idiots guide : Thanks macca hendrik explained it better in the event of a tie it's your highest of your two hole cards that count first I was counting the lowest first
    Posted by weecheez1

    That's it, you gottit!
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,227
    edited January 2016
     My Wife told me ......... "and she's the Highest authority in the Land" ! .......... Look under community cards. ?
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited January 2016
    Tikay in cheezes original question there are 2 7 low hands so the hand descriptor doesnt differentiate.

    Hendrick seems to be explaining it better than i did.


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