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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: Do the math:
    In Response to Re: Do the math : the odds your looking for are 11/47 then 4/46. once u hit 2 pair there are only 4 cards left in the deck left that improve your hand to a FH the other cards become null and hitting them just gives you a different 2 pair
    Posted by RLT16
    yep.



  • stuarty117stuarty117 Member Posts: 1,395
    edited February 2016
    Whats the probability of me getting lucky tonte with the wife

    I think if i round it up its ZERO

    I hope Aussie does some workings for me and proves me wrong
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: Do the math:
    Whats the probability of me getting lucky tonte with the wife I think if i round it up its ZERO I hope Aussie does some workings for me and proves me wrong
    Posted by stuarty117

    you'll be right stewarty.  i'm on a defo wrong streak.


  • BenchmarkBenchmark Member Posts: 297
    edited February 2016
    Le me expand on Phantom's Post:

    Pocket Cards: KK        Flop: 2 7 T

    To hit our full house or quads we need to hit both the turn and the river, as we need 2 more cards.

    For the turn, we need any of those cards (2 kings, three 2's, three 7's or three T's) = 11 cards

    That's 11/47. Okay? All agreed so far ?

    If the turn card is a K, then we need either K (for quads) , a 2, a 7 or a T = 10 Cards (10/46)

    If the turn is a 2, 7 or T, we need either a K or a card to match the turn card = 4 Cards (4/46)

    This is where it gets tricky...

    both 10/46 and 4/46 can't be correct, so we need to allocate a factor based on how likely each is to occur.

    This comes from the turn.

    At the turn we have 11 outs. Two are Kings and Nine are the 2, 7 and T's.

    So, the likelihood of us hitting the K is 2/11 and the likelihood of hitting a 2,7, or T is 9/11.

    These ratios are then applied to the river odds

    For the Full house with Kings or Quads it's (2/11)*(10/46)

    For the Full house with either 2's, 7's or T's it's (9/11)*(4/46)

    Both these calculations need the turn odds adding to them, making Phantom's

    (11/47)*(10/46)*(2/11) + (11/47)*(4/46)*(9/11)



    Bench.




  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,757
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: Do the math:
    Whats the probability of me getting lucky tonte with the wife I think if i round it up its ZERO I hope Aussie does some workings for me and proves me wrong
    Posted by stuarty117[/QUOTE
    If you have stone cold nuts you have very little chance - funny old game innit
  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,185
    edited February 2016
    Whatever the answer I still find the lack of 's' disturbing. We're not in that America where they say things wrong ;-)
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited February 2016

    Do the math?

    Did you go to school in America Bench?

    Math or maths is the real question here. I'm going with maths 100% of the time :)

  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited February 2016

    phanto, you know when i said youwere wrong?  sorry


    it was meant to be funny/witty
    my figs were meant to be rough

    soz


  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,217
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Do the math:
    Wasn't sure where to post this one, but here goes. You hold a pocket pair, say KK. The turn is an innocuous 2 7 T. What are the odds of hitting a full house or better (i.e. quads) ? It sounds simple at first but I don't think it is, as when the turn card gives you a set instead of 2 pair, the numbers change. Naturally, an explanation of the math would be nice, as opposed to a computer generated figure. Bench.
    Posted by Benchmark

    Here ya go, equity calculating the olde fashioned way.

    Watch "Hand equity calculation without computer simulation" on YouTube
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: Do the math:
    phanto, you know when i said youwere wrong?  sorry it was meant to be funny/witty my figs were meant to be rough soz
    Posted by aussie09
    aha related to ostrich egg maths thread?

    Soz wooshed me.

    no problem.
  • BenchmarkBenchmark Member Posts: 297
    edited February 2016
    It'll be in the dictionary soon. Just ask the French.
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