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how would you play this hand?

jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
edited March 2016 in The Poker Clinic
hand wont paste properly, so i will just have to explain it as best i can..

early stages (30/60) of the £33 BH last night, there was 1 limp utg and then a min raise, and I am on the button with AQos and pop it up  240.
  The original limper calls, as does the min-raiser. The flop comes down Q78 with 2 clubs.
  The utg limper now leads for full pot, and the min raiser folds. I have tptk and call.
  The turn comes 4d and the guy again full pot donks but this time its for half my stack so I am in a position where I have to go with my hand or fold it and wasnt too sure what i should be doing here? I had no strong reads on my opponent at that time.

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  • yuranASSetyuranASSet Member Posts: 485
    edited February 2016
    Hand isn't showing bud.
  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand?:
    Hand isn't showing bud.
    Posted by yuranASSet
    yeah no idea why
  • yuranASSetyuranASSet Member Posts: 485
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand?:
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand? : yeah no idea why
    Posted by jordz16
    Try again, but this time use Mozilla Firefox as your browser. I had they same issue once. I was using Chrome but apparently IE can have the same issue. 
  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited February 2016
    I tried using mozilla, chrome and internet explorer, no idea what the issue is at the minute.
  • Alvez11Alvez11 Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2016
    Dirt spot, but I guess we can't be very scared of sets as we'd expect him to raise pocket 7s, so more likely to put him on a draw or 2 pair, he's unlikely to fold either which again makes this spot alot more rash, although tbh he probs folds sometimes and he can call off with draws and worse top pair like kq, i think i sigh jam, dont hate a fold though, close spot.
  • yuranASSetyuranASSet Member Posts: 485
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand?:
    Dirt spot, but I guess we can't be very scared of sets as we'd expect him to raise pocket 7s, so more likely to put him on a draw or 2 pair, he's unlikely to fold either which again makes this spot alot more rash, although tbh he probs folds sometimes and he can call off with draws and worse top pair like kq, i think i sigh jam, dont hate a fold though, close spot.
    Posted by Alvez11
    This is me. I just think we are getting donked on bricks a lot here.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,867
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand?:
    Dirt spot, but I guess we can't be very scared of sets as we'd expect him to raise pocket 7s, so more likely to put him on a draw or 2 pair, he's unlikely to fold either which again makes this spot alot more rash, although tbh he probs folds sometimes and he can call off with draws and worse top pair like kq, i think i sigh jam, dont hate a fold though, close spot.
    Posted by Alvez11
    post more,.we need your knowledge :)
    me would fold find another spot very tough decision
  • BigRonnieCBigRonnieC Member Posts: 186
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand?:
    Dirt spot, but I guess we can't be very scared of sets as we'd expect him to raise pocket 7s, so more likely to put him on a draw or 2 pair, he's unlikely to fold either which again makes this spot alot more rash, although tbh he probs folds sometimes and he can call off with draws and worse top pair like kq, i think i sigh jam, dont hate a fold though, close spot.
    Posted by Alvez11

    Esp in a bounty hunter I side with this. You gotta break some eggs if you want an omelette, and bounty hunters leave eggshells everywhere.

    I just did similar with worse odds and lost (the 10 of clubs on river was a salty joke) but the guy was chip leader and aggro, blinds were higher, but you have to make a stand early, on bubble or heads up - gotta deal with the hands that come face up on the chin.

    Hand History #1004631992 (01:36 16/02/2016)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    SmilodonSmall blind 75.0075.002795.00
    BigRonnieCBig blind 150.00225.002040.00
     Your hole cards
    • 10
    • J
       
    boothy23Fold    
    SparklingRaise 300.00525.003930.00
    SmilodonFold    
    BigRonnieCCall 150.00675.001890.00
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • 8
    • 3
       
    BigRonnieCBet 450.001125.001440.00
    SparklingRaise 900.002025.003030.00
    BigRonnieCAll-in 1440.003465.000.00
    SparklingRaise 1980.005445.001050.00
    SparklingUnmatched bet 990.004455.002040.00
    BigRonnieCShow
    • 10
    • J
       
    SparklingShow
    • K
    • 10
       
    Turn
      
    • J
       
    River
      
    • 10
       
    SparklingWinFlush to the King4455.00 6495.00
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited February 2016
    ^ Your hand is nothing like jordz' and was played quite badly in all honesty. 

    @ jordz: Villain's stack size? I think it's pretty close but if he has a big stack I'm usually more tempted for that to swing my decision and go with it (just because I assume an unknown big stack player has been involved in hands and playing quite aggro to get a big stack)
  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited February 2016
    In Response to Re: how would you play this hand?:
    ^ Your hand is nothing like jordz' and was played quite badly in all honesty.  @ jordz: Villain's stack size? I think it's pretty close but if he has a big stack I'm usually more tempted for that to swing my decision and go with it (just because I assume an unknown big stack player has been involved in hands and playing quite aggro to get a big stack)
    Posted by F_Ivanovic
    i think i had him covered by a few hundred chips, he hadnt played too many hands from what i remember think he limped a few pots and had folded most flops so far. 

  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited February 2016
    ronnie your hand totall different to jordz, his stack is 60BB+ not >20, also it's him who open raised and gets put in an awquard spot, the only simularity is you donk lead the flop as was the cash with that limper but even that was qucikly changed by the fact the open raiser has raised are your forced to do a loose call.

    jordz: I might have been more tempted to go with a 3bet of 400, at 4BB he's going to call the majority of hands he'll call when it's just had 1 raise making spots like this more troublesome. Without reads I might be tempted to sign all in the turn, your intent to call will be the intent thinking he'll have weaker hands himself and the aggression he's showing with the hand tells you he'll gladly accept going all in what ever he's got and you've got outs for anything outside set or 65. Even a loss will have it's reward through a good note on him.
  • mrleemr1mrleemr1 Member Posts: 143
    edited February 2016
    Q78cc 4o

    77x3
    88x3
    78sx3 maybe 2
     Do we have the ace of clubs? Is the q of clubs? Do we have the queen of clubs? 

    These things would come into my range given I think.


    Kq/qj are probably in his range for value. 9Tcc for sure. Axcc. 


    Limpers line leads me to believe he's a weaker player, your small 3b sizing leads me to think his range will be wider pre flop here and will likely continue with a large majority of his limping range here pre.

    I'm not folding

  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited February 2016
    I should have worded it better, i meant that i raised an extra 240, so my actual bet was 360. Normally I have a good understanding of where I stand within a hand but i really had no idea here, I ended up going with my hand and was shown 77, at least i ended up with some solid notes on the guy after.
  • cyallcyall Member Posts: 24
    edited February 2016
    It's the normal bull hand that sky play only way to win is .dont play
  • ANTC4ANTC4 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2016
    Advice to you my friend is bet sky is corrupted you'll lose either way 
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