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Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing

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  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    I like how HU is a guaranteed 50/50! What a statement! Im in the middle of trying to put his advice on these threads into practice, im just looking for the right spots!
    Posted by dantb10
    the only time there wont be 1 winner/1 loser is when you both leave the table with the same amount of money that you came with,a draw..bit like football really..
  • cottladcottlad Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2010
    This has got to be a level right?
  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    hey cowgomoo i think i may be gathering a bit of support, see there are intelligent people on this site who can see you for what you really are a donk, arrogant idiot, just because you play high stakes woo wee!! you try to intimidate me into moving up no way play at my level or not at all. But u wont will u. ????????????????????????
    Posted by scouse1515
    Try and think about what u are saying, before causing embarrassment to yourself.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2010
    well well well, these posts are really stirring up some emotions, so on that front well done "daisy" thats what forums are for.think its all tongue in cheek stuff which is all good. the little spat with yourself and others could be solved by my posting a few losing hands where it went horribly wrong (still a lesson), or by sitting down for an hour at low stakes (fiver each should do it). like dantb 10 said hu isnt 50/50, what skill you bring to the table tilts the balance one way or the other. the only gripe i do have "mable" is the apparant disregards for money, to some people who grind it out with a much much smaller br , the amount of money that is being put on a massive outsider can stick in the throat a bit. your money you do what you like myfriend but some one with a br of £100 and plays for weeks and weeks with it, then to read you having a laugh with that much on one hand is going to grate some what. i personally will look forward to your next lesson.  
  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010

    my point about the 50/50,is this,if 2 people are at a table both with £100,and 1 wins a tenner,and you both leave,there is 1 winner + £10 and 1 loser  -£10,if after an hours play u both leave with £100,its a draw.simples.if sum1 normally plays hi stakes HU and they play sum1 who plays lo stakes HU,they may beat the lo stakes player more often,yes,but, if all the money goes in and 1 has AA and 1 has KK,and the board changes nothing,then if the lo stakes player has AA they beat the hi stakes player.by playing only 1 player you clearly have less chance of losing than if you play 10/6 players.

  • Sky_RichSky_Rich Member Posts: 3,837
    edited February 2010
    Hi Guys,

    i have had to delete a few posts in this thread. please keep all posts inline with the community house rules.

    those that choose to break these rules will initially be warned and eventually have the privilege of using the community removed (if they continue to offend).

    thank you!
  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    Hi Guys, i have had to delete a few posts in this thread. please keep all posts inline with the community house rules . those that choose to break these rules will initially be warned and eventually have the privilege of using the community removed (if they continue to offend). thank you!
    Posted by Sky_Rich
    i and others are clearly offended by cowgomoo's post's on how too chuck money around 'with gay abandon' and yet they are still visible for all to see,is this the 1 rule for the community clique and 1 rule for the rest?
  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited February 2010
    lol, this is ridiculous.  keep em coming cowgomoo
  • Sky_RichSky_Rich Member Posts: 3,837
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing : i and others are clearly offended by cowgomoo's post's on how too chuck money around 'with gay abandon' and yet they are still visible for all to see,is this the 1 rule for the community clique and 1 rule for the rest?
    Posted by philmenow

    no not at all. all posts that break the community house rules will be moderated and removed.

    - a fantastic tip if you think something is abusive (i.e breaks the house rules)

    there is a button below every post in the forum - 'report abuse'. click this and fill out your reasoning as to why the content is abusive and our moderators will be alerted and assess the content.

    thanks guys
  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    my point about the 50/50,is this,if 2 people are at a table both with £100,and 1 wins a tenner,and you both leave,there is 1 winner + £10 and 1 loser  -£10,if after an hours play u both leave with £100,its a draw.simples.if sum1 normally plays hi stakes HU and they play sum1 who plays lo stakes HU,they may beat the lo stakes player more often,yes,but, if all the money goes in and 1 has AA and 1 has KK,and the board changes nothing,then if the lo stakes player has AA they beat the hi stakes player.by playing only 1 player you clearly have less chance of losing than if you play 10/6 players.
    Posted by philmenow
    I'm guessing that you've never heard of the concept of "rake"?
    If both players leave after an hour with the same amount of money that they brought to the table it would be a very strange result. simples.
  • big_mick12big_mick12 Member Posts: 210
    edited February 2010
    Some people seriously need to lighten up these post are a big of fun why are people so up tight? Im loving these post keep them coming.......


    Oh and the HU being 50/50 chance of winning comment made me laugh.Iits just like flipping a coin then why not do that for £300 wouldn't it save alot of time lol, Says it all about your knowledge of the game.

    Seriously though lighten up its abit of fun kee the coming cowgomoo


  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited February 2010
    no not at all. all posts that break the community house rules will be moderated and removed.

    - a fantastic tip if you think something is abusive (i.e breaks the house rules)

    there is a button below every post in the forum - 'report abuse'. click this and fill out your reasoning as to why the content is abusive and our moderators will be alerted and..........WET THEMSELVES.







    FYP    ;-)
  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing : I'm guessing that you've never heard of the concept of "rake"? If both players leave after an hour with the same amount of money that they brought to the table it would be a very strange result. simples.
    Posted by MereNovice
    err,did i say sit at a table in a casino or on here,no,even allowing for 'rake',1 would still leave with more than the other,thus making 1 a winner and 1 a loser.in a 2 horse race there will be 1 winner ,1 loser or a dead heat,unless  both die b4 the finish,there can be no other result.you have more chance of picking the winner in a 2 horse race than in the 'grand national'.how hard can it be..
  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    Some people seriously need to lighten up these post are a big of fun why are people so up tight? Im loving these post keep them coming....... Oh and the HU being 50/50 chance of winning comment made me laugh.Iits just like flipping a coin then why not do that for £300 wouldn't it save alot of time lol, Says it all about your knowledge of the game. Seriously though lighten up its abit of fun kee the coming cowgomoo
    Posted by big_mick12
    i think the OP has already proved that it is just that ,a coin flip,moo can go all in with any 2 cards and have as much chance of winning or losing,unless the pot splits,because there are only 2 players.win,lose or draw,how hard can it be...if u have a never ending bankroll,you could ,in theory,coin flip every hand and eventually u'll end up ,even..
  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing : i think the OP has already proved that it is just that ,a coin flip,moo can go all in with any 2 cards and have as much chance of winning or losing,unless the pot splits,because there are only 2 players.win,lose or draw,how hard can it be...if u have a never ending bankroll,you could ,in theory,coin flip every hand and eventually u'll end up ,even..
    Posted by philmenow
    I'm really struggling with your logic.
    Are you saying that in EVERY HU poker hand each player has a 50% chance of winning?
    Even if this were true (which is clearly not the case) the likelihood of both players ending up even over a session is extremely remote.
  • cottladcottlad Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2010

    I've changed my mind........ Phil's right!

    These lessons you're giving cow are crazy and irresponsible.  I've tried most of them and they don't seem to work.... i'm losing money hand over fist :(
    Also, i now see how 2 players playing HU is always going to be 50/50....... 2 players, even chips, same chance of getting dealt AA....  how can it be anything other than 50/50.  This is backed up by the fact there will be 1 winner, and 1 loser (unless it's a draw! [or they both die])

    So cmon..... open your eyes everyone...... cow is a fraudster..... don't be conned!

    Saying that i'm still holding out for lesson 10 just in case it teaches me a move where i can get back some of my losses.

  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2010
    phil , we wernt talking about flippin a coin, we were talking about heads up poker. using your analogy of a 2 horse race, the book maker doesnt have both horses on the same odds. ones a fav through form and one is not.if you back the fav in a 2 horse race time and time again the fav will win more times than not. same in hu. mr negrano and myself are sitting down for game of hu, yes 50/50 chance of winning but 1 is a massive fav (not me by the way)
  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing : I'm really struggling with your logic. Are you saying that in EVERY HU poker hand each player has a 50% chance of winning? Even if this were true (which is clearly not the case) the likelihood of both players ending up even over a session is extremely remote.
    Posted by MereNovice
    err,no,im not,clearly AA will beat 72os 87ish% of the time,my point is that if there are 2 players,HU..There will be 1 winner,1 loser in a session,unless they end up even at the end of the session.if however the 2 same players played 100 sessions,it would be possible that either 1 wins more sessions than the other,and therefore is a more winning player.when 2 cards vs 2 cards,regardless of what cards,1 hand will win 1 will lose,or theyll split the pot.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2010
    your missing the most important part, the skill of the player, or are you saying there is none in hu poker

  • philmenowphilmenow Member Posts: 617
    edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: Lesson 9- Calling a re-raise with 6 2 can never be a bad thing:
    phil , we wernt talking about flippin a coin, we were talking about heads up poker. using your analogy of a 2 horse race, the book maker doesnt have both horses on the same odds. ones a fav through form and one is not.if you back the fav in a 2 horse race time and time again the fav will win more times than not. same in hu. mr negrano and myself are sitting down for game of hu, yes 50/50 chance of winning but 1 is a massive fav (not me by the way)
    Posted by pod1
    yes that is true,however,if you back 10 favs at 1/100,for £100 each time,you will win £10 ,if the 1 time the 10/1 2nd fav wins,you'd win £1000..but there is still only ,win ,lose ,draw ,dead results
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