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keep playing these Aces wrong :)

rivermunkyrivermunky Member Posts: 354
edited June 2016 in Brags, Beats and Variance
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancerivermunkySmall blind 100.00100.008525.00deawatts14Big blind 200.00300.003980.00 Your hole cardsAA   xxxxxxCall 200.00500.0016050.00Anna28Fold    69hixxyCall 200.00700.005761.67rivermunkyRaise 700.001400.007825.00deawatts14Fold    xxxxxxxxCall 600.002000.0015450.0069hixxyCall 600.002600.005161.67Flop  10Q9   rivermunkyBet 1950.004550.005875.00xxxxxxxxAll-in 15450.0020000.000.0069hixxyFold    rivermunkyAll-in 5875.0025875.000.00xxxxxxxUnmatched bet 7625.0018250.007625.00rivermunkyShowAA   xxxxxxxShow36   Turn  4   River  6   WP Sir :)WinFlush to the 1018250.00 25875.00

Comments

  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2016
    This might look a nasty hit but it's actually the sort of board most unattractive to an AA and might have been worth folding. 63s might not be in a tight persons range but KJ, 1010, 99 Q10, Q9s and109s will be meaning you're already beaten by a good number of hands.You've then got the likes of  AJcc, KQcc, QJcc, 87cc, KQcc and QJcc all getting into a 50/50 spot 60/40 in Qjcc and Kqcc case. Then of course comes the likes of J10 A8cc and QJ before going into the range of hands totally in need of the draw or runner runner two pair/trips.


    When putting that entire combo into an equity calculator you have only got about 31% compared to opponents 69% and could be best off dumping them on the flop
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2016
    good thing here was you had a loose player but unfortunately his hand wasn't the AQo or KQo it was one of those hands you normally want to see if you were all in against a tighter player. no worse off you just see 2 low cards rather than the nut flush draw.

    UL
  • rivermunkyrivermunky Member Posts: 354
    edited May 2016
    fair comment had a bit of info on player was on table for a while plus it was a BH so u get called way more i was pretty certain i was in front but i just thought it was a super loose call but it was a £5 game so i find these get played a lot looser then say a 33 quid game i wasnt upset just dont think i could have played it any other way but hey im just a nit :)
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited May 2016
    Got to admit I myself would have probably called this AA most days because having the timer would make me want to simplify things. I'd know for sure things like two pair or set were about but only afterwards would I have realised just how many 50/50 draws there really is.

    One thing I might have realised from this is that  Pair+ open ended straight draw will hit more than first thought, basically it's got the same number of outs as your flush draw+gutshot has got, the only danger is set and a few 2 pair combos. Getting it all in as a TP+straight draw could help get it' hand the best of value from the hits and should be able to make up from that odd lost against set from it's odd call by flush draw or making better pair fold
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: keep playing these Aces wrong :):
    This might look a nasty hit but it's actually the sort of board most unattractive to an AA and might have been worth folding. 63s might not be in a tight persons range but KJ, 1010, 99 Q10, Q9s and109s will be meaning you're already beaten by a good number of hands.You've then got the likes of  AJcc, KQcc, QJcc, 87cc, KQcc and QJcc all getting into a 50/50 spot 60/40 in Qjcc and Kqcc case. Then of course comes the likes of J10 A8cc and QJ before going into the range of hands totally in need of the draw or runner runner two pair/trips. When putting that entire combo into an equity calculator you have only got about 31% compared to opponents 69% and could be best off dumping them on the flop
    Posted by craigcu12
    Once we bet we only need 33% equity to call it off, so even if opponents range is as tight as you suggest (unlikely most players in a low stakes game will be quite that tight) then calling would only likely be a small mistake. But mostly, folding could end up being a big mistake when many players are quite happy to jam just any TP here or any pair + SD
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