I play the Roller regularly and haven't worried too much about the late finish on the two or three times I've run very deep. If there is an appetite for change to accelerate the completion, I'd suggest skipping the first 3 or 4 blind levels and start at the equivalent of level 4. The 10k structure is so deep I'm not sure it would impact the early stages of play that much? Posted by mattprawn
Hi Matt/TK.
I pretty much always agree with you Matt, but I do differ here.
I think it is very important to have early levels that are VERY deep in major MTT's.
This is so that it enables a few levels of playing speculative hands like low pocket pairs and suited connectors.
Lets say I raise with 87s and get 3bet, in these early levels I can call the 3bet, because I have implied odds that I may take down a monster. But I only have these implied odds at the early levels as we are so deep.
So, from my perspective, this is a very important aspect of the game.
I do see a trend of deepstack tournaments starting with high blind levels, and even anties from level 1 on some sites, and I feel it spoils an important aspect of the early stages of major MTT's.
I think you should be able to "afford" to raise and call a 3bet in the early levels, with these low pocket pairs and suited connectors.
In Response to Re: Super Roller Structure : Hi Matt/TK. I pretty much always agree with you Matt, but I do differ here. I think it is very important to have early levels that are VERY deep in major MTT's. This is so that it enables a few levels of playing speculative hands like low pocket pairs and suited connectors. Lets say I raise with 87s and get 3bet, in these early levels I can call the 3bet, because I have implied odds that I may take down a monster. But I only have these implied odds at the early levels as we are so deep. So, from my perspective, this is a very important aspect of the game. I do see a trend of deepstack tournaments starting with high blind levels, and even anties from level 1 on some sites, and I feel it spoils an important aspect of the early stages of major MTT's. I think you should be able to "afford" to raise and call a 3bet in the early levels, with these low pocket pairs and suited connectors. Just my opinion of course. Cheers, G Posted by StayOrGo
Graham, very valid points. Am I allowed to change my mind without looking like a Plonk*r?
In Response to Re: Super Roller Structure : Graham, very valid points. Am I allowed to change my mind without looking like a Plonk*r? Posted by mattprawn
LOL, of course.
One is only a plonker if one sticks with their own view through stubborness, when they no longer believe it themselves :=)
In general MTT durations on Sky are VERY short, compared to the industry average.
I'm guessing an average MTT duration on Sky is about 2hr 30mins. Other sites are still allowing late reg when most MTT's on Sky would have completed. An average non turbo MTT on other sites, probably lasts about 8hrs.
I think this is fine btw, and it's a good thing that Sky MTT's are generally a lot shorter.
However, imo we should at least have some major MTT's, like the Roller, with, what one could argue, is a "proper" structure.
In general MTT durations on Sky are VERY short, compared to the industry average.
I'm guessing an average MTT duration on Sky is about 2hr 30mins. Other sites are still allowing late reg when most MTT's on Sky would have completed. An average non turbo MTT on other sites, probably lasts about 8hrs.
The counter argument to that is that the structure on sky is not worse than others infact in most cases it is better (longer) due to lack of antes.
The reason tournament time avg is lower is because is because mtt fields are smaller... which I am guessing is exactly what sky want to avoid
In general MTT durations on Sky are VERY short, compared to the industry average. I'm guessing an average MTT duration on Sky is about 2hr 30mins. Other sites are still allowing late reg when most MTT's on Sky would have completed. An average non turbo MTT on other sites, probably lasts about 8hrs. The counter argument to that is that the structure on sky is not worse than others infact in most cases it is better (longer) due to lack of antes. The reason tournament time avg is lower is because is because mtt fields are smaller... which I am guessing is exactly what sky want to avoid Posted by Itsover4u
Partially true, but there are also plenty of highish stake games on other sites with between 80-200 runners and still go on for 8 hours.
I like them both as they are. A bit of difference in structure and stack makes life more interesting and poses different challenges. All the same would be dull.
If you want to finish earlier start it at 7pm. I play this everyweek and its a big dissapoinment if you make it faster. Add antes before a faster structure
Don't change the structure. An earlier start with a long registration period I think would help. As long as you can register by 9pm and still play, that would work. Otherwise am happy to take the occasional 3am finish if fortunate to run that deep.
And if the earlier satellite structure is a problem on Sunday, can we get one or two paid (£22 - 1 in 5) satellites back a few nights before please? Thursdays would be great.
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Graham, very valid points. Am I allowed to change my mind without looking like a Plonk*r?