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POKER ETIQUETTE
rhino11
Member Posts: 50
Ive been trying to play poker for a while and come across a lot of nice people, I got deservedly chat banned when I lost my brother and drank while playing and abused other players on table,my point is if I got banned for foul language what about players who slow roll with the nuts,i looked the term slow roll up in poker etiquette and its definition was likened to your best mate sleeping with your wife . that's how bad slow rolling is, so why aren't these players I'm not allowed to name them of course banned ? I read one of your answers to a question regarding you leaving a table and you said if a player was smelly you would leave a cash table was that a joke ?
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Hi Rhino,
I'm not a huge fan of slow rolling, some people are a bit quick to condemn though and sometimes people get the definition wrong. Just to clarify, in case anyone reads this who isn't sure...slow-rolling is simply taking a long time to turn over your hand when it's time for the showdown and you have the nuts. If for example you have aces and another player has gone all in with jacks and they turn their hand over immediately and you wit a bit, look at the hand, think a bit, ask how much the pot is and then finally turn over the aces, maybe doing it one at a time as if you may have had AK then that is a bad slow-roll, not great for the game and pretty scummy in my opinion. I can see how you might get that person on tilt and that could help but in a tournament they are probably getting knocked out and you may not see them again and they may never play poker again if they feel so upset and angry. It just strikes me as a mean way to ruin someone's night and not worth it.
Online though this is not possible as the hands automatically get turned over in quick time.
Slow playing is a completely different thing...this is where we might reraise with AA and then just call if we get 4-bet. We might then use the maximum time on the clock to "reluctantly" call on the flop and turn and then check and let our opponent hang himself by bluffing or betting what he thinks is the best hand on the river. We might also check the flop and turn before check-raising the river. This is all perfectly fine and just an example of trying to extract the most from a big hand and of course it can go wrong as the opponent could hit with the free cards.
Another thing that sometimes happens is that player 1 goes all-in maybe for 5000 at 300/600...player B has 40,000 and takes the maximum time before calling with AA and then player C eventually folds and we have a showdown between A and B. A might feel he has been slow-rolled but B was really just trying to con C into entering the pot and B has done absolutely nothing wrong.
On the smelly player front I wasn't joking...I generally think that as consumers if there is something we don't like, such as the person next to us making the atmosphere unpleasant in whatever way, then we have one ultimate sanction...we can spend our money elsewhere.
Obviously you can tank with the nuts and then call online but often when that does happen it's because someone is surfing the net, busy watching TV or playing some other tables rather than a desire to be mean.
I think abuse is worse but I can see why people consider slow-rolling to be almost as bad.