SPIN TIPS

fi33er

Hi There,

I just wanted to see what people thought about spin tables on here.
I am trying to play better poker and for the last 6 months I have just been playing spin tables.  I won £900 one month, £555 next month then last month I lost £270 and this month I am down £500.

I have noticed that I have been tripling my buy in then losing the big pot with the best hand or a flip. I have developed this unfortunate knack of losing the big pots, especially on spin 1/2. 

Casinos make a fortune with only a small house advantage over the player, I am getting it in with over pair vs under pair, or ak vs ax or at worst ak or aq vs pair.

so a flip or 70/30 or 80/20 fav.

I thought I would be on a money maker in these situations, but if it is a big pot (after I have doubled up a few times) I lose.
Can anyone please give me some advice? I am putting a lot of time in to improving and this last 2 months have been frustrating as I have certainly improved a lot but my bank roll is getting low and I am feeling down about my poker.
Sometimes I feel sky has got it in for me. which I know sounds crazy, but you should see some of the junk the other player wins with!

Thank you very much
merlin

ALTiltYou

Hi Fi33er. I hate to break it to you, but if you want to get better at poker then spin ups aren't the way to do it! Is there money to be made in them? Yeah a little, but you've got to get to the 50-100bbs stack first. There are plenty of punters in them, so there is money. You will find weird plays and you're flipping alot of the time, there is high rake. The only advice i can give is to play tight aggro. I wouldn't normally tell someone what they are doing right or wrong but i have afew notes on you which makes my decisions easier. The way you play is good, but your range is very narrow which makes me call/fold hands against you easy decisions. You can see your bankroll rise quickly, but you can soon see it dissapear in them. Why not play 100bbs against fish in a normal cash game, rather than starting with 10bbs in a spin up? 

fi33er

Hi Al,
Thanks a lot for your post. Its kind of you to give me some tips, thanks.  I used to play 10p/20p nl cash games (splashies, dtm liamboi etc) I used to lose most of the time on there. Is that the type of cash table you think I should play? I was aiming to become a spin table specialist, but maybe I should take your advice and head back to regular cash. I guess I have learnt something from playing spin, maybe I will do better on the regular cash games now.

Thanks mate, good luck to you

NChanning

 As in all types of poker it's just a question of adapting to the correct way to play depending on how the others are playing. I generally think Al is right and that tight aggressive is 100% the way to play these. I've had a few goes and mostly the mistake people make is to call when low stacked in pots where they have no real implied odds and no fold equity...in that spot they should just fold. Calling in these things is definitely the worst option almost all the time. You are often short stacked or your opponent is short stacked and the option should be shove or fold. If you Google Nash and shove charts you may get some ideas of the hands you need to shove.

 From your original post I would guess that you just haven't played enough to have a sample size to tell if you are a winner at these things. It sounds like you've played perfectly and got unlucky in a few spots but the fact you remember them exactly makes me think you've played relatively few hands.

 Keep on trying to improve and please don't think about losing 80/20 or 70/30 situations as unusual...if they never happened they would be called 100/0 situations.