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how many mistakes does it take

weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
edited December 2021 in Strategy
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceweecheez1Small blind 15.0015.002160.00XXBig blind 30.0045.001060.00 Your hole cardsA968   hhhhffff13Call 30.0075.001595.00tikay1Fold    eon1961Fold    raygrayteCall 30.00105.001995.00weecheez1Call 15.00120.002145.00XXRaise 90.00210.00970.00hhhhffff13Call 90.00300.001505.00raygrayteFold    weecheez1Call 90.00390.002055.00Flop  4J3   weecheez1Check    XXBet 292.50682.50677.50hhhhffff13Fold    weecheez1Call 292.50975.001762.50Turn  3   weecheez1Check    XXBet 487.501462.50190.00weecheez1Call 487.501950.001275.00River  2   weecheez1Check    XXAll-in 190.002140.000.00weecheez1Call 190.002330.001085.00weecheez1ShowA968   XXShow45AA   XXWin highFlush to the Ace1165.00 1165.00XXWin low5-low1165.00 2330.0

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  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
    edited January 2017
    this was from a dym last night and it set the tone for my games i made three mistakes
    1 poor starting hand
    2 not folding to reraise
    3 chasing low
    must try harder and be more diciplined gl all
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,202
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: how many mistakes does it take:
    this was from a dym last night and it set the tone for my games i made three mistakes 1 poor starting hand 2 not folding to reraise 3 chasing low must try harder and be more diciplined gl all
    Posted by weecheez1
    Hi Cheez, 

    Hope you dont mind me commenting, FWIW I dont mind preflop, that hand can flop well, as it goes you catch a piece of the wrong suit, 
    If you are going to play a marginal hand (if you want to play a slightly more expansive game) you must do so with discipline. You can easily be drawing completely dead on that flop (which in fact you are on this occasion), your low hand is not strong and you are unlikely to take both ends, I fold to the flop bet.

    I am way more likely to open this type of hand in an MTT, less so in a DYM.
  • weecheez1weecheez1 Member Posts: 1,686
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: how many mistakes does it take:
    In Response to Re: how many mistakes does it take : Hi Cheez,  Hope you dont mind me commenting, FWIW I dont mind preflop, that hand can flop well, as it goes you catch a piece of the wrong suit,  If you are going to play a marginal hand (if you want to play a slightly more expansive game) you must do so with discipline. You can easily be drawing completely dead on that flop (which in fact you are on this occasion), your low hand is not strong and you are unlikely to take both ends, I fold to the flop bet. I am way more likely to open this type of hand in an MTT, less so in a DYM.
    Posted by HENDRIK62
    Thanks hendrik I need to reign my game in a bit I'm making too many basic mistakes and not thinking it through first 
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,396
    edited January 2017
    Just to add to Neils reply.......playing OOP is never a good idea.
    Fold to flop bet.
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,202
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: how many mistakes does it take:
    Just to add to Neils reply.......playing OOP is never a good idea. Fold to flop bet.
    Posted by VespaPX

    big +1
  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited January 2017
    Yeah being OOP would mean a fold in general for me. As played I would fold the flop although if you were drawing to the nut flush I would peel one off on the flop. Turn would be a fold for me in either scenario.

    The hand range is very marginal to me but being OOP is the complete deal breaker. There are plenty scenarios I might apply pressure with this hand in position but it is just likely to be a hand that leads to problems this early in a DYM.

    Just my 2 cents.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,623
    edited January 2017


    Yup, it's a fold cheezy.

    Nut flush hands are always a temptation to call with, but we just don't hit enough to justify all the chips we waste.
     
    Another point here is your hand included 6, 8 & 9. 

    Most PLO8 textbooks will tell you these are called "killer cards", as they are so bad. Most straights you hit will either end up as a chop as the low will hit, or be the bad end for the high, so you almost never scoop. And when we set out to play any hand of O8, our ultimate aim must be to scoop.
     
    As it happens, A-9-8-6 DS is a MUCH stronger hand in PLO, & I'd deffo see a flop with it if possible.       
     
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