In Response to Re: Screen Names : No because when asked if you was pokerkinga you denied it. You knew it was giving you an edge even if it was just for a week or two. I asked quite a few people and they all wasn't sure if you was a new player or not. Why should you be the only one who gets to change their alias? I know quite a few people who would like to change theirs but can't because it would be crazy to let everyone change their alias you wouldn't know who was who after months/years of building reads on your opponents. Slagg me off all you want calling me a "sad loser" .. etc not really that bothered. Posted by BigHawk89
In Response to Re: Screen Names : Reads and notes aren't the be -all and end-all. Posted by chilling
They are a huuuuuge factor when it's 2 cash regs playing against each other who have played 100,000+ hands together. No one thing in poker is the be-all and end-all but something like knowing who you're playing against is pretty close
It's absolutely unreal to call this a trivial matter. It's a huge thing when you have notes on every single reg that you are playing thousands of hands with day in day out and all those players think you're an unknown/new player. Sure the benefits of it won't last forever, but it's 100% a big advantage to the name changer and a massive disadvantage to the person who doesn't know about it.
As Tikay said, it's sorted now, although that being said, would it have ever been sorted if not for a Sky player reporting it? I have no idea how this could have happened even in error, I assume the people at CC who aren't always on the ball RE stuff like this wouldn't even have the power to make a change like that so presumably it must have been done by someone who should know better? If this thread hadn't happened would they just be playing on as Craigggg?
I have heard a few people stating that they hate their alias. normally they just set it when making the account for a bit of a laugh say, and after playing for a while become embarrassed about it. Unfortunately changing an alias can give you a temporary advantage over other players who now think you are a different person. To help get around this how about allowing people one change of alias when signing on, and when used it only gets reset after 5 years. Also the new alias would have the old alias in brackets after the new one for say 3 months. Just an idea, any thoughts anyone, could it even be done, would we want to?
In Response to Re: Screen Names : They are a huuuuuge factor when it's 2 cash regs playing against each other who have played 100,000+ hands together. No one thing in poker is the be-all and end-all but something like knowing who you're playing against is pretty close It's absolutely unreal to call this a trivial matter. It's a huge thing when you have notes on every single reg that you are playing thousands of hands with day in day out and all those players think you're an unknown/new player. Sure the benefits of it won't last forever, but it's 100% a big advantage to the name changer and a massive disadvantage to the person who doesn't know about it. As Tikay said, it's sorted now, although that being said, would it have ever been sorted if not for a Sky player reporting it? I have no idea how this could have happened even in error, I assume the people at CC who aren't always on the ball RE stuff like this wouldn't even have the power to make a change like that so presumably it must have been done by someone who should know better? If this thread hadn't happened would they just be playing on as Craigggg? Posted by Lambert180
I wasn't referring to the name change. Notes and reads on a player that an individual plays 100,000s of hands with seems pointless.Both players having notes and reads on each other obviously, where's the advantage? Cant be that great, otherwise one would avoid the other.
In Response to Re: Screen Names : I wasn't referring to the name change. Notes and reads on a player that an individual plays 100,000s of hands with seems pointless.Both players having notes and reads on each other obviously, where's the advantage? Cant be that great, otherwise one would avoid the other. Posted by chilling
I wish that just occasionally I could understand your posts
In Response to Re: Screen Names : I wasn't referring to the name change. Notes and reads on a player that an individual plays 100,000s of hands with seems pointless.Both players having notes and reads on each other obviously, where's the advantage? Cant be that great, otherwise one would avoid the other. Posted by chilling
How are they pointless? They are often gonna determine how he play a massive amount of situations
Not all players are equal are they? Imagine player A isn't a great reg, he has some big leaks and we have notes on what those leaks are and so obviously play differently against them to exploit those leaks. Then they turn up with a totally different name (which you don't know about obviously) so you play differently against them. Playing differently might mean we bluff catch against someone where if we knew who they were we'd know they never bluff, or we might try bluffing them when if we knew who they were we'd know they're a massive station and we shouldn't bluff them. We may get hands in pre against them that we wouldn't normally against player A cos we know player A only gets in KK+ pre but we don't know that now.
Sometimes you're right that neither player has a big advantage once they both have good notes on each other BUT once you change the name that's not the case anymore is it, one person has full notes on their opponent and one person is totally readless, which leads to the name changer having a big advantage.
I can't stress how huge a difference it makes. It's huge.
I thought the art of poker was mixing it up? I view poker like a handicap race, different day, different winner. If you went to a casino, would you not take a seat unless you knew every player at the table? Posted by chilling
Ofc I would sit in a casino, and I'd be knowingly readless, as would my opponent. It'd be realllllly odd to sit in a live casino with a bloke who has played against me for 100s of hours and yet I don't know him at all... how would that work exactly?
This is the 2nd thread where I've genuinely not known if you are just leveling/trolling or not. I don't wanna bang on about it too much RE Kinga cos thankfully it's been sorted now (although I do still wonder if it would have been sorted without this thread) but I just think it's laughable for it to be called trivial and so I wanted to make sure less knowledgeable people are aware of how massive a difference it makes.
Why do you think HUDs are so popular amongst regs, and people who don't have them or don't know how to use them well feel at a disadvantage (when playing v people who have them)? Notes over hundreds of thousands of hands are usesless anyway, why bother.
For a start, i play for fun or a hobby,whatever.If two cash players had huds, and were both preficient at using them against each other, wheres the advantage? You can label my view in whatever category you like.I dont play for cash directly, so maybe shouldnt comment, but certain things said on the forum, from mine as a recreational viewpoint, sound a touch like insecurity.
For a start, i play for fun or a hobby,whatever.If two cash players had huds, and were both preficient at using them against each other, wheres the advantage? You can label my view in whatever category you like.I dont play for cash directly, so maybe shouldnt comment, but certain things said on the forum, from mine as a recreational viewpoint, sound a touch like insecurity. Posted by chilling
You're hitting the nail on the head and yet keep seeming to ignore it. If two cash players both have huds, and are both of very similar ability and both equally good at using the info on their HUD, they have little advantage over each other.
On Sky, we don't get to use HUDs, but we all effectively have a simple HUD inside our brain if we play enough, we'll have a rough idea of how often Bates opens, how often does he 3bet, what kind of range he calls 10bb jams with etc etc. We store all this info in our head (and in the notes box) on Sky just like a HUD does for you.
In this scenario (the OP), one player has access to the HUD, they know all the stats on their opponents but their opponents have 0 info. So yes, when both players have the HUD on, they are about neutral EV when they play each other but when you force one of them to turn their HUD off without them even knowing it, the guy who still has his HUD working now has the odds swing in his favour.
I would be one of the first in line if we were allowed to change our table name but I understand why it cannot. At my dym tables regs who know a great deal about my game and style would, without doubt, call me lighter than they otherwise would if I changed my alias.
Definitely not a trivial thing but would love to change mine!
I have heard a few people stating that they hate their alias. normally they just set it when making the account for a bit of a laugh say, and after playing for a while become embarrassed about it. Unfortunately changing an alias can give you a temporary advantage over other players who now think you are a different person. To help get around this how about allowing people one change of alias when signing on, and when used it only gets reset after 5 years. Also the new alias would have the old alias in brackets after the new one for say 3 months. Just an idea, any thoughts anyone, could it even be done, would we want to? Posted by Sir-Gary
Something like this, when you click a players name and the notes window pops open , previous aliases could be listed next to location. Any notes travel with the new name.
In Response to Re: Screen Names : Something like this, when you click a players name and the notes window pops open , previous aliases could be listed next to location. Any notes travel with the new name. an alias amnesty. Posted by mumsie
Too expensive. Although a good idea.Its reasonable to assume that an alias would only need to be changed the once.
I have heard a few people stating that they hate their alias. normally they just set it when making the account for a bit of a laugh say, and after playing for a while become embarrassed about it. Unfortunately changing an alias can give you a temporary advantage over other players who now think you are a different person. To help get around this how about allowing people one change of alias when signing on, and when used it only gets reset after 5 years. Also the new alias would have the old alias in brackets after the new one for say 3 months. Just an idea, any thoughts anyone, could it even be done, would we want to? Posted by Sir-Gary
Hi Gary,
Not gonna happen, for all manner of reasons, the least of which (there are many more important reasons) is that there is a character limit on screen-names, & adding a previous Alias in brackets would exceed the character limit in almost every case.
In Response to Re: Screen Names : They are a huuuuuge factor when it's 2 cash regs playing against each other who have played 100,000+ hands together. No one thing in poker is the be-all and end-all but something like knowing who you're playing against is pretty close It's absolutely unreal to call this a trivial matter. It's a huge thing when you have notes on every single reg that you are playing thousands of hands with day in day out and all those players think you're an unknown/new player. Sure the benefits of it won't last forever, but it's 100% a big advantage to the name changer and a massive disadvantage to the person who doesn't know about it. As Tikay said, it's sorted now, although that being said, would it have ever been sorted if not for a Sky player reporting it? I have no idea how this could have happened even in error, I assume the people at CC who aren't always on the ball RE stuff like this wouldn't even have the power to make a change like that so presumably it must have been done by someone who should know better? If this thread hadn't happened would they just be playing on as Craigggg? Posted by Lambert180
Well we don't live in a perfect world Paul, & mistakes do happen & always will.
I said last night I'd get it sorted first thing this morning, & I did. I did not offer up any waffle or excuses, I said "a mistake was made" & I apologised. I'm not quite sure what else you want me to say.
The circumstances of the error were extremely odd, but, you know, odd things do happen. The loophole has now been blocked.
Without the thread, no, I doubt it would have been spotted. Unless, as I have twice suggested, someone raised it with CC, or sent me a PM.
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Unfortunately changing an alias can give you a temporary advantage over other players who now think you are a different person. To help get around this how about allowing people one change of alias when signing on, and when used it only gets reset after 5 years. Also the new alias would have the old alias in brackets after the new one for say 3 months. Just an idea, any thoughts anyone, could it even be done, would we want to?
Not gonna happen, for all manner of reasons, the least of which (there are many more important reasons) is that there is a character limit on screen-names, & adding a previous Alias in brackets would exceed the character limit in almost every case.
It's a fundamental though, & it won't happen.
Well we don't live in a perfect world Paul, & mistakes do happen & always will.
I said last night I'd get it sorted first thing this morning, & I did. I did not offer up any waffle or excuses, I said "a mistake was made" & I apologised. I'm not quite sure what else you want me to say.
The circumstances of the error were extremely odd, but, you know, odd things do happen. The loophole has now been blocked.
Without the thread, no, I doubt it would have been spotted. Unless, as I have twice suggested, someone raised it with CC, or sent me a PM.
Anyone wanna guess the over/under on how many posts this thread will generate?
I'll set the line at 75.
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