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LAST TRIAL RUN TODAY. WETHERBY SHORTLIST AND MORNING PRICES NOW AVAILABLE

StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
edited April 2017 in Sports & Betting Chat

WETHERBY Spreadsheet below:

DATE SUNDAY 23/04/17 WETHERBY









LEG/TIME HORSE R-POST ODDS OV NIGHT MORN LATEST RES
2.10PM 2m HcH 01 - DEAR SIRE 9/2 5/1 6/1 6/1 1ST
2.10PM 2m HcH 02 - MY MO 5/1 7/1 10/1 16/1 3RD
2.10PM 2m HcH 03 - MONFASS 11/2 7/1 15/2 5/1
2.10PM 2m HcH 04 - PADS 10/1 8/1 11/1 7/1
2.10PM 2m HcH 05 - DOMTALINE 8/1 10/1 12/1 12/1
2.10PM 2m HcH 06 - KNOCKREA 25/1 33/1 66/1 100/1
2.10PM 2m HcH 07 - ALLFREDANDNOBELL 6/1 11/2 5/1 6/1
2.10PM 2m HcH 08 - MORTENS LEAM 5/1 4/1 4/1 4/1 2ND
2.10PM 2m HcH 09 - SANDGATE 14/1 14/1 25/1 40/1
2.10PM 2m HcH 10 - MAGNOLIA RIDGE 7/1 9/1 11/2 13/2







2.40PM 1m7f HcCh 01 - HONOURABLE GENT 1/1 10/11 6/4 13/8 1ST
2.40PM 1m7f HcCh 02 - STAR PRESENTER 9/2 9/2 9/1 10/1
2.40PM 1m7f HcCh 03 - JETHRO 5/1 6/1 4/1 4/1
2.40PM 1m7f HcCh 04 - VODKAWELLS 3/1 4/1 15/8 7/4







3.10PM 2m3f MdH 01 - BEYONDTHEFLAME 100/1 200/1 200/1 200/1
3.10PM 2m3f MdH 02 - CELESTIAL DANCER 11/2 8/1 8/1 15/2 2ND
3.10PM 2m3f MdH 03 - COME ON LULU 33/1 40/1 40/1 40/1
3.10PM 2m3f MdH 04 - COOLANURE 33/1 50/1 100/1 100/1
3.10PM 2m3f MdH 05 - SHENEEDEDTHERUN 1/5 1/5 2/9 2/9 1ST
3.10PM 2m3f MdH 06 - STRANDS OF VELVET 10/1 10/1 10/1 10/1







3.45PM 3m HcCh 01 - SHIMLA DAWN 2/1 2/1 9/4 9/4
3.45PM 3m HcCh 02 - PALM GREY 7/2 4/1 7/2 4/1 1ST
3.45PM 3m HcCh 03 - FRAMPTON 9/2 4/1 7/2 11/4
3.45PM 3m HcCh 04 - THE CLOCK LEARY 15/8 15/8 11/4 3/1







4.20PM 2m NvH 01 - BLUE HUSSAR 6/4 6/4 13/8 7/4 2ND
4.20PM 2m NvH 02 - VISERION 5/2 5/2 11/4 11/4 1ST
4.20PM 2m NvH 03 - DINSDALE 5/2 9/4 9/4 9/4 3RD
4.20PM 2m NvH 04 - JACK LAMB 20/1 33/1 50/1 33/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 05 - KING GOLAN 100/1 200/1 200/1 200/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 06 - MANNY OWENS 14/1 25/1 25/1 25/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 07 - MA PETIT LUMIER 66/1 100/1 150/1 150/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 08 - SIR TOMMY 33/1 66/1 100/1 125/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 09 - SUPER CHARGE 40/1 66/1 100/1 100/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 10 - THOMAS TODD 16/1 18/1 25/1 25/1
4.20PM 2m NvH 11 - MAN OF LA MANCHA 40/1 50/1 66/1 66/1







4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 01 - CROOKSTOWN 4/1 11/2 11/2 5/1
4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 02 - MILGEN BAY 10/1 14/1 12/1 14/1
4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 03 - STRONGLY SUGGESTED 2/1 3/1 3/1 10/3 1ST
4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 04 - LEANNA BAN 100/30 4/1 4/1 4/1
4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 05 - CHRISTMAS TWENTY 16/1 20/1 25/1 25/1
4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 06 - DARTFORD WARBLER 9/2 3/1 5/2 9/4
4.50PM 2m5f HcCh 07 - ROSQUERO 12/1 14/1 14/1 16/1 2ND




NB: Please notify me of any additions you want put in by 11:00AM. (We are scoring this for JACKPOT ONLY)

Please choose 8 SELECTIONS of your choice from ANY of the races.

As the card is so uncompetitive we'd be looking for something unusual to happen to get a decent dividend. So I have put up a couple of horses up against the 1/5 hot pot in the 3.10, "SHENEEDEDTHERUN". Namely CELESTIAL DANCER (8/1) and STRANDS OF VELVET (10/1)

If you think we should ONLY have the banker in this race, simply make sure you have both Celestial Dancer and Strands of Velvet as TWO of your EIGHT removals.

I will pick up the additions requests at 11am and produce the updated spreadsheet (if applicable by 11.30AM) Removals baseline data will then be fully accurate.

GL

 

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Comments

  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Roger has kindly agreed to prep the spreadsheet once again for tomorrow's (Sunday's) FINAL trial run.

    It's a roll over, so will be interesting with go-live approaching to track how the roll over's are going.

    When/If someone finds out where the Jackpot meeting is on Sunday, can you please post on this thread, to give Roger and myself as much time as possible to do the preparations.

    Cheers,

    G
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    it seems to go on Twitter so I'll doit and I'll nominate mk cheekily aswell.
    I'm hoping to play mini ukops tonight so will do best with selections before hand
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: LAST TRIAL RUN ON SUNDAY. ROGER COULD YOU GET THE SPREADSHEET TO ME FOR 8PM TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL PROCESS? ALL REMOVERS PLEASE READ ABOUT ADDITIONAL PROCESS:
    it seems to go on Twitter so I'll doit and I'll nominate mk cheekily aswell. I'm hoping to play mini ukops tonight so will do best with selections before hand
    Posted by MICKYBLUE
    Great thanks Micky/MK, can I put you both down as having the formal role of doing this for go live?

    It really is imperative to get this information as soon as it is available.

    Cheers,

    G
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    put me down as non runner notifying as well mate
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    OK, I think my initial timings were unrealisteic.

    So we will do the following:

    Hopefully Roger can prep the spreadsheet when he is able to. If I haven't received it by midnight, I will do it.

    I will then release the provisional removal spreadsheet no later than 2AM.

    People will have until 11AM to request me to re-consider some of my initial removals (IN WHITE). These will then be added at 11.30am, along with any market movers/springers in LIGHT BLUE.

    So I urge removers to wait until after 11.30am before finalising their selections. If that is not possible, you can still do it earlier, but you will not have the knowledge of the additional horses that have been added as potential removers.

    This will give us a bigger window to re-consider horses in white. Removers can always amend their earlier selections (changes to be clearly shown in red) when the full "LIGHT BLUE" list is available at 11.30AM.

    Please try and have your final removers posted no later than 40 minutes before the off of the first race. Although you can amend one or two up to 15 minutes before the off of the first if you feel you really need to.

    Any late suggested additions/market movers after 11.30AM will be listed in DARK BLUE and not available as a removal choice. I will decide whether to include them or not, but will welcome people's last minute comments.

    Make sense? Any questions/concerns, let me know.

    Cheers,

    G
  • zadoczadoc Member Posts: 3,402
    edited April 2017


      Hi all

     
       Jackpot meeting Sunday is at WETHERBY.

       Will produce spreadsheet.

       Good luck with selections guys.

      ROGER
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    was just about to post that. it goes on twitter 1st for some strange reason.

    thanks for the awesome spreadsheets btw
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Please note there is nothing to stop removers and potential "adders" studying the form before the provisional spreadsheet is released. Particularly if you are working or busy the following day when time might be tight. Doing the prep work up front might be the answer.

    Cheers,

    G
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    only quickly browsed this but we have a banker 

    also this is very do-able meeting with a decent perm.

    im even thinking of doing it myself
  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited April 2017
    Done my home work.See if this will help you to win the jackpot tomorrow
    Bet Confirmation - YD8985098424I - Internet Time of bet: 23/04/2017 00:11:17 No.SelectionsEventEvent DateE/W TermsOddsDividendBet TypeResult 1 My Mo
    2.10 Wetherby (Race 1)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 7/1      P 2 Allfredandnobell
    2.10 Wetherby (Race 1)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 11/2      L 3 Mortens Leam
    2.10 Wetherby (Race 1)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 4/1      P 4 Honourable Gent
    2.40 Wetherby (Race 2)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 10/11      W 5 Star Presenter
    2.40 Wetherby (Race 2)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 9/2      L 6 Sheneededtherun
    3.10 Wetherby (Race 3)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 2/11      W 7 Shimla Dawn
    3.45 Wetherby (Race 4)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 15/8      L 8 The Clock Leary
    3.45 Wetherby (Race 4)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 15/8      L 9 Blue Hussar
    4.20 Wetherby (Race 5)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 11/8      P 10 Dinsdale
    4.20 Wetherby (Race 5)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 7/4      P 11 Manny Owens
    4.20 Wetherby (Race 5)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 25/1      L 12 Viserion
    4.20 Wetherby (Race 5)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 5/2      W 13 Rosquero
    4.50 Wetherby (Race 6)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 14/1      P 14 Dartford Warbler
    4.50 Wetherby (Race 6)
    (Win and Each Way)
    Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 9/4      L Multiples
    Bet Type No.of Bets Unit Stake Total Stake To Return Return
    6 Folds 96 0.10 9.60   
    Total Stake:  9.60
  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: LAST TRIAL RUN ON SUNDAY. PLEASE COULD ZADOC GET SPREADSHEET TO ME BY MIDNIGHT?:
    Done my home work.See if this will help you to win the jackpot tomorrow Bet Confirmation - YD8985098424I - Internet Time of bet: 23/04/2017 00:11:17 No. Selections Event Event Date E/W Terms Odds Dividend Bet Type Result 1 My Mo 2.10 Wetherby (Race 1) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 7/1   To Run 2 Allfredandnobell 2.10 Wetherby (Race 1) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 11/2   To Run 3 Mortens Leam 2.10 Wetherby (Race 1) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 4/1   To Run 4 Honourable Gent 2.40 Wetherby (Race 2) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 10/11   To Run 5 Star Presenter 2.40 Wetherby (Race 2) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 9/2   To Run 6 Sheneededtherun 3.10 Wetherby (Race 3) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 2/11   To Run 7 Shimla Dawn 3.45 Wetherby (Race 4) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 15/8   To Run 8 The Clock Leary 3.45 Wetherby (Race 4) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 15/8   To Run 9 Blue Hussar 4.20 Wetherby (Race 5) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 11/8   To Run 10 Dinsdale 4.20 Wetherby (Race 5) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 7/4   To Run 11 Manny Owens 4.20 Wetherby (Race 5) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 25/1   To Run 12 Viserion 4.20 Wetherby (Race 5) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 5/2   To Run 13 Rosquero 4.50 Wetherby (Race 6) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 14/1   To Run 14 Dartford Warbler 4.50 Wetherby (Race 6) (Win and Each Way) Live Stream  23/04/2017 None 9/4   To Run Multiples Bet Type No.of Bets Unit Stake Total Stake To Return Return 6 Folds 96 0.10 9.60     Total Stake:  9.60
    Posted by wynne1938

    Made an error,will have to do the bet again,unfortunnately the bookmaker in question will only accept  a bet with 14 runners ,so they left out my last selection.

  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Hi, yes as Micky alluded to, potentially very doable, and nothing to stop a one man band having a go.

    However I predict 1 of 3 things will happen, in order of my opinion of most likely.

    1) There will be multiple winners thus producing a low dividend (potentially less than £2K, £1K to 50p), that may not cover the cost of a large perm or pay as much as a win accumulator would. Dividend could be VERY low if most the fancied runners win.

    2) One real upset occurs causing a reasonable dividend.

    3) Two real upsets cause it not to be won

    With scenario one being the most likely, closely followed by 2, I would perhaps consider a much smaller perm, and as Micky rightly says, it is an opportunity for a "one man band" to have a shot at it, but don't expect it to pay a fortune if you get it up.

    A couple of pieces of advise I would offer to anyone having a shot at this on there own is as follows:

    The opening race is by far the most open, and I would leave it as close to the off as you dare, so that you can ensure you are on the late market movers in that race. In the four runner races, I would advocate choosing from the first three in the betting as the outsider will be over-subscribed by the big perm boys that will put them all in. The favourite in these races will be over-subscribed by the one man bands, but need to have them in, but with others.

    Having said that if you fancy the outsider in the four runner races, I would not put you off having it in, my advise is purely from a statistical perspective correlating the chance the horse has according to the odds and the likely representation of it in the pool.

    I'll probably have a pop at it and will post my selections here.

    GL!

    Cheers,

    G
  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited April 2017
    PlacedDescriptionOddsStake (£)Pot. Return (£)Status
    22-Apr-17
    23:30:02
    6 Folds (x144) 13:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m, 13:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m
    Betfair Bet ID O/0786566/0000675

    14.40 1,419.73 Open

    13:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m
    Allfredandnobell - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    6 -- --         L

    13:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m
    Mortens Leam - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    5 -- --         P    

    13:10 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m
    My Mo - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    8 -- --         P

    13:40 HANDICAP CHASE 1m 7f 36y
    Star Presenter - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    4 -- --         L

    13:40 HANDICAP CHASE 1m 7f 36y
    Honourable Gent - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    2 -- --         Won

    14:10 MAIDEN HURDLE 2m 3f 154y
    Sheneededtherun - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    1.22 -- --         W                        

    14:45 HANDICAP CHASE 3m 45y
    The Clock Leary - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    3 -- --         L

    14:45 HANDICAP CHASE 3m 45y
    Shimla Dawn - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    3 -- --         L

    15:20 NOVICES' HURDLE 2m
    Dinsdale - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    3 -- --         P

    15:20 NOVICES' HURDLE 2m
    Blue Hussar - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    2.62 -- --         P

    15:20 NOVICES' HURDLE 2m
    Viserion - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    3.25 -- --         W

    15:20 NOVICES' HURDLE 2m
    Manny Owens - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    11 -- --         L

    15:50 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 5f 75y
    Leanna Ban - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    5 -- --         P

    15:50 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 5f 75y
    Dartford Warbler - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    3.5 -- --         L                         

    15:50 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 5f 75y
    Rosquero - Win
    Best Odds Guaranteed
    11 -- --          P   
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: LAST TRIAL RUN ON SUNDAY. PLEASE COULD ZADOC GET SPREADSHEET TO ME BY MIDNIGHT?:
    Hi, yes as Micky alluded to, potentially very doable, and nothing to stop a one man band having a go. However I predict 1 of 3 things will happen, in order of my opinion of most likely. 1) There will be multiple winners thus producing a low dividend (potentially less than £2K, £1K to 50p), that may not cover the cost of a large perm or pay as much as a win accumulator would. 2) One real upset occurs causing a reasonable dividend. 3) Two real upsets cause it not to be won With scenario one being the most likely, closely followed by 2, I would perhaps consider a much smaller perm, and as Micky rightly says, it is an opportunity for a "one man band" to have a shot at it, but don't expect it to pay a fortune if you get it up. A couple of pieces of advise I would offer to anyone having a shot at this on there own is as follows: The opening race is by far the most open, and I would leave it as close to the off as you dare, so that you can ensure you are on the late market movers in that race. In the four runner races, I would advocate choosing from the first three in the betting as the outsider will be over-subscribed by the big perm boys that will put them all in. The favourite in these races will be over-subscribed by the one man bands, but need to have them in, but with others. Having said that if you fancy the outsider in the four runner races, I would not put you off having it in, my advise is purely from a statistical perspective correlating the chance the horse has according to the odds and the likely representation of it in the pool. I'll probably have a pop at it and will post my selections here. GL! Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
    couldnt agree more. 1st and last race are practically anybodys race tho at first glance.

    even tho ive gambled pratically all my life im pretty new to jackpot betting as its way out of my bankroll to achieve.

    ill be looking at outsiders but very much doubt any ae worth a punt.


  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    The provisional removals spreadsheet is now on the opening post.

    Please notify me of any additions you want put in by 11:00AM. (We are scoring this for JACKPOT ONLY)

    Please choose 8 SELECTIONS of your choice from ANY of the races.

    As the card is so uncompetitive we'd be looking for something unusual to happen to get a decent dividend. So I have put up a couple of horses up against the 1/5 hot pot in the 3.10, "SHENEEDEDTHERUN". Namely CELESTIAL DANCER (8/1) and STRANDS OF VELVET (10/1)

    If you think we should ONLY have the banker in this race, simply make sure you have both Celestial Dancer and Strands of Velvet as TWO of your EIGHT removals. If you want to remove just one of them, that is fine.

    I will pick up the additions requests at 11am and produce the updated spreadsheet (if changes are required by 11.30AM) Removals baseline data will then be fully accurate.

    You can post your selections to remove at anytime, but by 11.30AM the horses listed in LIGHT BLUE will be fully complete. Initial removals to be posted no later than 1.30PM, last minute updates (in red) deadline 1.55PM.

    GL!
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    I am going to try and study the form fully for this one.

    Primarily because I am probably going to have a pop at it on my own today.

    GL if you are too!
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    We are only doing Jackpot scores today, remove 8 light blues from ANY race, please try to maintain alignment of scores/odds. The numbers after the time are the appropriate saddle cloth number. You don't need to have the same number of selections per race as below, just 8 in total.

    If you chose you can miss out a race or two altogether, as long as the total is 8.

    Using this template from the start will make adding the scores after easier and clearer.

    Please cut and paste and use below as template:

    STAYORGO'S REMOVAL SELECTIONS ARE:

    2.10: 03 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP  -X PTS  
    2.10: 04 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP +X PTS    

    2.40: 04 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP +X PTS 

     
    3.10: 03 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP +X PTS 

     
    3.45: 01 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP +X PTS 
    3.45: 06 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP  -X PTS  

    4.20: 03 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP +X PTS 

     
    4.50: 08 - HORSE NAME:   ODDS                 JP +X PTS 

    STAYORGO'S JACKPOT POINTS WERE ??  HAVING ? WINNERS  FROM XX SELECTIONS.


  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited April 2017
    2.10 W: 04 - PADS 7/1 JP 4PTS
    2.10 W: 09 - SANDGATE 40/1 JP 2PTS

    2.40 W: 02 - STAR PRESENTER 10/1 JP 3PTS

    3.10 W: 02 - CELESTIAL DANCER 15/2 JP 4PTS
    3.10 W: 06 - STRANDS OF VELVET 10/1 JP 3PTS

    3.45 W: 02 - PALM GREY 4/1 JP -5PTS

    4.20 W: 03 - DINSDALE 9/4 JP 5PTS

    4.50 W: 04 - LEANNA BAN 4/1 5PTS

    JACKPOT POINTS: 21

    SNUFFER HAD 1 WINNER FROM 8 SELECTIONS

  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    rosquero in the last Defo needs a look at.
    it's won over course and distance. has a claimer on. some ok form and will be popular with e/w punters. 

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