put yourself in this situation you sat into the final, there i not enough runners and its cancled, anyhow the sat structure need looking at Posted by MICKYBLUE
ok i'll do that
Sat is cancelled. Money is credited to account or she is put into next sat
Did you not qualify from an all in sat when you were already in the QF? Maybe if you didnt play the sats for cash, the QF would have got enough runners and could have started. Not wanting to start a war, just pointing out a flaw in your annoyance. Good luck when you do get to play it anyway
put yourself in this situation you sat into the final, there i not enough runners and its cancled, anyhow the sat structure need looking at Posted by MICKYBLUE
I'd hope there would be enough runners in the final if I'd somehow worked my way up to it! I'm not sure a quarter final in April can be compared to a package final in July btw.
And I don't think it does. Most of the sats on here seem to run fine without issue.
Hi DA, Did you not qualify from an all in sat when you were already in the QF? Maybe if you didnt play the sats for cash, the QF would have got enough runners and could have started. Not wanted to start a war, just pointing out a flaw in your annoyance. Good luck when you do get to play it anyway Posted by MAXALLY
because I was in the perfect mind set to play the qrts tonight thats why. I won from a satty then yes I won an all in but I did win into it. others play all ins to do the cash so why can't I. any way say what you like am done.
most of the sats? practicaly all sats cancel during the day she is livid as wanted to play tonight and was prob looking forward to it. id be anoyed at situation aswell due to only certain nights i can play poker. each to there own, no need to jump on someone when they air there feelings on a forum. Posted by MICKYBLUE
I wouldn't say anyone was jumping on her, apart from maybe the all in sat police, but he gets ignored mostly.
Few of us just pointing out that the sats run every night so getting livid about something that is easy enough to sort out seems kinda silly. It needed 7 runners, it got 6; it is what it is.
I'm sure we'd all have some degree of annoyance in the situation, but I'm also sure most of us would be level headed enough to see the various solutions.
I don't care what any of you say. I won into the Vegas Qtr it was Cancelled. I am annoyed and rightly so. I haven't been offered my money back but to be put into a tournament of same value. That to me does not mean I will be put in the next Vegas Qtr. It's my dream but hey just take the pee. Posted by Darkangel7
@SKY - Implementing tournament £££ would fix this kind of situation and probably increase interest in satellites. MTT regs and sat grinders are gonna spend the T£ anyway so it doesn't stop them playing, and it would allow lower stakes recs to build up small satellite wins if they chose to do so, as well as alleviating any kind of cancellation issue as software could easily be coded to pay out BI in T£ in event of cancellation - Same for deregistering (Without reging the target tourney before winning sat), it could just give you £x tourney money instead of the current £0.
Could also pay out tokens from rakeback/stuff cross-promoting SB&G as T£ and get rid of the whole "Have to use the whole value of the token because you don't get change" situation.
I'm lazy so I'm happy with cash when I reg the target tournament then de-reg after I win (Sorry Maxally!), but I think T£ would be beneficial to the site as a whole, tbh. Satellite related issues are one of the most common things I see on the forum, and that's only the minority that make their voices heard on here.
@Darkangel, re: Bold bit - You realise "Tournament of the same value" includes a Vegas Quarter of the same value? As satellites are tournaments still, obvs. If you want to be in the next Vegas satellite, that option is available to you. Just say "I'd like my tournament of the same value to be the quarter final tomorrow night please", easy game. I fail to see the issue.
In the promo it states that you can satellite to Vegas for £2•25, not strictly true then? Especially if you are offered a buyin to a non Vegas tourney.
In the promo it states that you can satellite to Vegas for £2•25, not strictly true then? Especially if you are offered a buyin to a non Vegas tourney. Posted by chilling
In the promo it states that you can satellite to Vegas for £2•25, not strictly true then? Especially if you are offered a buyin to a non Vegas tourney. Posted by chilling
I feel sorry for you Angel because I know how much these Vegas satellite's mean to you, and the obvious opportunity that a low entry Quarter-Final would have offered.
I can also understand that SKY can't afford to be having loads of overlay in these qualifiers. The worst thing about the cancellation of this Quarter-final was that there was still an All-in satellite running when the QF was cancelled, that had started at 8.44pm. Wineli won this sat. and it meant there would have been 7 players, and the quarter-final would have gone ahead. Isn't it a bit stupid to be running an All-in sat. just 1 minute before the actual tournament, when the winner could have no tournament to play in because it's already been cancelled by the time the winner is known?
I just hope Wineli got the Quarter-final entry/fee back too.
We all want the tournaments to go ahead, so why do SKY offer so many GUARANTEED seats, when the tournaments are obviously struggling for numbers?
If the tournament got cancelled then the monies should be credited back to account immediately. Credit of equal value is utter manure. Why should anyone have to phone to get money back.
I feel sorry for you Angel because I know how much these Vegas satellite's mean to you, and the obvious opportunity that a low entry Quarter-Final would have offered. I can also understand that SKY can't afford to be having loads of overlay in these qualifiers. The worst thing about the cancellation of this Quarter-final was that there was still an All-in satellite running when the QF was cancelled, that had started at 8.44pm. Wineli won this sat. and it meant there would have been 7 players, and the quarter-final would have gone ahead. Isn't it a bit stupid to be running an All-in sat. just 1 minute before the actual tournament, when the winner could have no tournament to play in because it's already been cancelled by the time the winner is known? I just hope Wineli got the Quarter-final entry/fee back too. We all want the tournaments to go ahead, so why do SKY offer so many GUARANTEED seats, when the tournaments are obviously struggling for numbers? Posted by MISTY4ME
You cant argue with that.
A similar thing happened the other day where I was still heads up with Kimpet in a quarter until 9.48 and the semi was cancelled juyst before 9.45. Its in Skys interest to run the sats, so you would think they would at least get the schedule right. That should be the easy bit
I am not sure why people play sats for cash, but if there are enough of them then maybe there is a call for a new sitngo, so the sats end up being played by those that want to qualify for the tournaments.
Maybe if you had a 10 runner, or 15 runner sitngo where the last 2 or 3 took the the money. This would pay out at 5 to 1, which is probably what a sat pays.
So in a £5 ten runner game the last two would get £25 each, and in the case of the 15 runners the last 3 would get £25 each.
because I was in the perfect mind set to play the qrts tonight thats why. I won from a satty then yes I won an all in but I did win into it. others play all ins to do the cash so why can't I. any way say what you like am done. Posted by Darkangel7
So by playing the all in sat for money you effectively took the 7th seat from someone hence preventing the tournament from running as it only had 6 entrants. Then you complain about it being cancelled due to lack of entries. Oh the irony.
In Response to Re: Lasvegas 4k Qtr final Cancelled. : So by playing the all in sat for money you effectively took the 7th seat from someone hence preventing the tournament from running as it only had 6 entrants. Then you complain about it being cancelled due to lack of entries. Oh the irony. Posted by Enut
Made this point earlier in the thread. Irony was the word I was looking for too.
However, not everyone can grasp the logic behind it and would rather attack others/defend themselves rather than actually take on board what is being said.
Lol @ people getting on the 'playing sats for cash' bandwagon. A large amount of the seats that are created are because of people playing satellites for cash. What about when the QF does go ahead cos 7 qualified and that was because the previous satellite had 35 runners instead of the 25 it'd have if no regs played for cash?
It's totally understandable why Angel/any rec would be annoyed in this spot. For a reg it's not such a big deal, they probably play 5-7 nights a week so can just play the next QF anytime. Games in general are less exciting when you're a reg imo, but when you're a rec and play say a 6pm Vegas sat and get thru to a 9pm Vegas sat and you're all hyped up, and then they 'nah it's cancelled' of course they're gonna be annoyed.
No way round it though sadly, as others said, will just have to get put into a different QF, but just saying I can understand why you'd be annoyed.
Fwiw, maybe Sky need to do more to push the main satellites. Like sats are broken in to 2 categories for me, the 'main' ones and then the fillers. Like there's a 6pm sat for the main everyday iirc and it guarantees what like 10-20 seats? That's the main sat and should never be cancelled. Then they had loads of mini filler ones all over the place, like 1in5s with 1 seat gtd and they often get cancelled. I assume there's only one QF on a Sunday (the biggest day of the week for online poker) for Vegas? It's gotta be a sin for that to ever get cancelled imo.
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ok i'll do that
Everyone on glue?
Could also pay out tokens from rakeback/stuff cross-promoting SB&G as T£ and get rid of the whole "Have to use the whole value of the token because you don't get change" situation.
I'm lazy so I'm happy with cash when I reg the target tournament then de-reg after I win (Sorry Maxally!), but I think T£ would be beneficial to the site as a whole, tbh. Satellite related issues are one of the most common things I see on the forum, and that's only the minority that make their voices heard on here.
It's totally understandable why Angel/any rec would be annoyed in this spot. For a reg it's not such a big deal, they probably play 5-7 nights a week so can just play the next QF anytime. Games in general are less exciting when you're a reg imo, but when you're a rec and play say a 6pm Vegas sat and get thru to a 9pm Vegas sat and you're all hyped up, and then they 'nah it's cancelled' of course they're gonna be annoyed.