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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    GL Jordz

    I was conscious that "pros only bet singles" when starting this thread.

    As you say it adds to the fun element that you can potentially win big from a few selections, even if lower ev long term.

    My main betting strategy is and always will be to look for value singles.

    My main interest in multiples has come from the Jackpot syndicate and Pick7.
  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    good luck today especially I had already backed your nap before I saw it was.
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    Thanks Mr V.

  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited June 2017
    I like to think I have made a big effort to show you the potential perils of these bets, I believe every horse i picked placed but didnt win. 
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Multiples:
    I like to think I have made a big effort to show you the potential perils of these bets, I believe every horse i picked placed but didnt win. 
    Posted by jordz16
    UL Jordz, but thanks for the valuable lesson.

    I expect I will have to lose more money of my own before I learn properly though.


  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    Today was a good lesson in the benefit of singles.

    After Jordz demo I managed to lose my first "leg" of my trebles and a lot of doubles.

    Then the 2nd race there was a late non runner and the other did not place.

    All my wins came in the third race. At least some of those doubles still won as singles due to the NR

    I also had a 1-2-3 in the 3rd race but only backed it forecast and not tricast.
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    Tried a placepot in the week but didnt have to time to post it.

    I only did 48x10p lines, 2 horses each race, one near the top of the betting and a "value bet".

    Was going well with one place or win in the first 3 then two in the fourth and fifth. Blanked the 6th though but at least put a chunk on the winner to make a decent return. 

    Today I have gone for a ew Yankee...

    Encrypted, Fantasy Keeper, Juanito Chico, Scorching Heat

    GL All
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited June 2017
    nice looking yankee mate all the best of luck
  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Multiples:
    Tried a placepot in the week but didnt have to time to post it. I only did 48x10p lines, 2 horses each race, one near the top of the betting and a "value bet". Was going well with one place or win in the first 3 then two in the fourth and fifth. Blanked the 6th though but at least put a chunk on the winner to make a decent return.  Today I have gone for a ew Yankee... Encrypted, Fantasy Keeper, Juanito Chico, Scorching Heat GL All
    Posted by Phantom66
    but have you put the same amount on all 11 bets ?
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    HI Mr V.

    Yes I did place a straight yankee.

    It was only a small bet relative to my single stakes for the day.

    In the end I had a 3 place treble (and 3 doubles) to make 10% loss on the bet.

    Always a downer in these when your first leg loses.
  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Multiples:
    HI Mr V. Yes I did place a straight yankee. It was only a small bet relative to my single stakes for the day. In the end I had a 3 place treble (and 3 doubles) to make 10% loss on the bet. Always a downer in these when your first leg loses.
    Posted by Phantom66
    Glad you only lost a bit and it was small stakes but I still cant see why anybody would put the same amount on a four timer as a double,  the odds of getting a four timer a long shot. 

    There is nothing wrong with multiples as you can win a lot for a small stake but the amount staked on each bet should  be different. If you get the staking plan right, and its not easy I grant you, you can have your fun and still make a profit if one or two come in.  
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    Given the amount of Extra Places on offer at York today, I have picked 3 of my selections for an EW Trixie

    Corton Lad, Viscount Barfield and Perfect Angel
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    Day 1 at Ascot was a good day so of course I didn't have any multiples on.

    Trying a few small ew trixies today

    Daban, Smart Call, Queen of Time

    Mrs Gallagher, Bossy Guest, Grecian Light

    Mrs Gallagher, Hors de Combat, Cheval Blanche

    Smart Call, Another Touch, On her Toes
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    A couple of small trixies from Worcester today

    My Naps

    Romeo is bleeding, Too many Diamonds, Fidelity

    My next best from other races

    Code of Law, Forever my friend, Wishfull Dreaming
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    A couple of small ew trixies

    Welsh Inlet, Fairy Mist, Classic Pursuit

    Alketios, Minty Jones, Rock Palm
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited July 2017
    Placed a few doubles and trebles at Doncaster today.

    Also a couple of Yankees.

    Chartbuster, Takatul, Melinoe, Luv U whatever (ew)

    Mussahim, Sun Lover, Pleasant Surprise, All you (w)
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Multiples:
    Placed a few doubles and trebles at Doncaster today. Also a couple of Yankees. Chartbuster, Takatul, Melinoe, Luv U whatever (ew) Mussahim, Sun Lover, Pleasant Surprise, All you (w)
    Posted by Phantom66
    GL!
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited August 2017
    No EPRs today, in the UK anyway, so reviving this for the jackpot meeting.

    Bearing Mr V's advice in mind I have put most money on single bets

    Then I have selected the following for all double combos and a separate mutiple

    Three Saints Bay (P), Bulas Belle(L), Dyllan(L), Italian Riviera(L) (ew Yankee and w/o doubles)

    See Vermont(L), Bulas Belle(L), Goadby(L), Dyllan (L)(ew Lucky15 and e/w doubles)

    Total outlay is £9.70 on the multiple bets.

    No idea why I bet one as a Yankee and one as Lucky15 though (meant to be both yankees)
  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited August 2017
    In Response to Re: Multiples:
    No EPRs today, in the UK anyway, so reviving this for the jackpot meeting. Bearing Mr V's advice in mind I have put most money on single bets Then I have selected the following for all double combos and a separate mutiple Three Saints Bay, Bulas Belle, Dyllan, Italian Riviera (ew Yankee and w/o doubles) See Vermont, Bulas Belle, Goadby, Dyllan (ew Lucky15 and e/w doubles) Total outlay is £9.70 on the multiple bets. No idea why I bet one as a Yankee and one as Lucky15 though (meant to be both yankees)
    Posted by Phantom66
    good luck 

  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited August 2017
    GOOD LUCK
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