In Response to Re: PROTECT YOUR CARDS? : I would have willingly accepted the solution that I get my chips back, that is the bet I just placed--so are you saying that there is no flexibilty at all and that the TD in that instance was wrong???? Posted by hijimhere
No - The TD was 100% correct.
Tran made it 32,000, & so although she said all-in" (for 110,000), she only got penalised for the "cal", not the Raise. So she got 78,000 back. Otherwise, it gets bizarre, because Tran might fold to the All-In, not realising what had happened, & then what would you do? - she can't win it, neither can he!
It was the perfect Ruling, in every way. IMO, of course.
You can spin this so many ways, but it's best to be safe - protect your hand at all times. It's the very first thing any Live Poker player learns.
Any ducking & diving, any "but this", "if that", "why the other?" is irrelevant if we protect our hand properly.
Ah, so if your hand is declared dead, gone, mucked and bust you are entitled to your last chip action to be returned as was in my case. Yes I get it now protect your cards with a shotgun. Thanks see at SPT if can find the schedule
Wow - you got VERY lucky there! Your hand was dead, very dead, extremely very seriously dead, as in dead. 1) You are never entitled to half the pot. Your hand was dead, killed, kaput. 2) It does not matter WHERE your cards were, forget the "betting line", it's not relervant. "It is the players responsibility to protect his own cards at all times". Always. If they get accidentally mucked by the Dealer, it is deemed to be YOUR FAULT, as you did not protect them. Protect them with a card-marker, or hold your hands on them at all times. Posted by Tikay10
this hand is pushing up the daisies,its gone to see the bleeding choir invisible,this is an ex hand e.t.c
it was your fault defo,just like when i was playing on thursday night at the casino,i had aa for the 4th time in about 20 hands and raised 4v times bb everyone folded so i chucked my cards face up into the middle,then the dealer says"i have'nt acted yet! opps!,he said i could take my raise back and he takes the rest but i said no as i shouldnt of been so stupid....(got to admit i was watching cobra on the big screen next to me at the time,a truly terrible film btw....)
In Response to Re: PROTECT YOUR CARDS? : Good spot Bonky Boy. Note she's giving it all the histrionics, the "poor me", the "it ain't fair" nonsense - and it's 100% her fault. Not 98%, not 99%, the full monty, 100%. Because them's the Rules, & have been since Methusulah was a little boy. People need to grow up & learn to be accountable for their own mistakes. It's like the debate we see on this Forum so often about Sky Poker that goes " I never knew the Terms & Conditions said that, because I never read them ". And who's fault is that? Posted by Tikay10
I protect my cards by using both my hands in Live poker and when All in especially!! The same is also true when playing online - I always put both hands over my cards after I go All in...oh hang on, I don't use them to protect the hand - it's so that I can't see the fact that I just pushed All in with 73 0ff and I can imagine that it is in fact AA :S
forgive me if im wrong, but didnt i read somewhere that there are no 'official worldwide rules' of poker that cover all casinos and clubs and that basically the tourney director or casino manager can make his own mind up as to what to do?
forgive me if im wrong, but didnt i read somewhere that there are no 'official worldwide rules' of poker that cover all casinos and clubs and that basically the tourney director or casino manager can make his own mind up as to what to do? Posted by loonytoons
Part 1 - Correct.
Part 2 - Not really! They have to follow SOMEONE's "established" Rules, usually TDA or RROP. They cant just make up Rules, well not if they allude to running a proper poker Tourney. Anarchy does not rule yet, thank God!
In Response to Re: PROTECT YOUR CARDS? : Part 1 - Correct. Part 2 - Not really! They have to follow SOMEONE's "established" Rules, usually TDA or RROP. They cant just make up Rules, well not if they allude to running a proper poker Tourney. Anarchy does not rule yet, thank God! Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: PROTECT YOUR CARDS? : Lol, he has special status. Dealer, I have a straight! No you don't. Yes I do, look, 4-7-8-9-J. Fair enough Rich. Posted by Tikay10
Many dealers haven't had the correct training so fail to spot the Orford gapped-straight.
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Tran made it 32,000, & so although she said all-in" (for 110,000), she only got penalised for the "cal", not the Raise. So she got 78,000 back. Otherwise, it gets bizarre, because Tran might fold to the All-In, not realising what had happened, & then what would you do? - she can't win it, neither can he!
It was the perfect Ruling, in every way. IMO, of course.
You can spin this so many ways, but it's best to be safe - protect your hand at all times. It's the very first thing any Live Poker player learns.
Any ducking & diving, any "but this", "if that", "why the other?" is irrelevant if we protect our hand properly.
"Do you feel lucky, punk?" sorta thing.
it was your fault defo,just like when i was playing on thursday night at the casino,i had aa for the 4th time in about 20 hands and raised 4v times bb everyone folded so i chucked my cards face up into the middle,then the dealer says"i have'nt acted yet! opps!,he said i could take my raise back and he takes the rest but i said no as i shouldnt of been so stupid....(got to admit i was watching cobra on the big screen next to me at the time,a truly terrible film btw....)
Mucking aces because of COBRA, how could you man lol - Agreed by the way, Cobra Sucks
The same is also true when playing online - I always put both hands over my cards after I go All in...oh hang on, I don't use them to protect the hand - it's so that I can't see the fact that I just pushed All in with 73 0ff and I can imagine that it is in fact AA :S
Part 2 - Not really! They have to follow SOMEONE's "established" Rules, usually TDA or RROP. They cant just make up Rules, well not if they allude to running a proper poker Tourney. Anarchy does not rule yet, thank God!
Dealer, I have a straight!
No you don't.
Yes I do, look, 4-7-8-9-J.
Fair enough Rich.