Which of these are bad luck and which are bad play

craigcu12

I have lost over £150 on the cash tables in just 3 days, at first it was a case of bad luck but now I'm questioning my own game. I could go on for ever with hands but here are a number of big ones. What started of as a period of small losses on loose aggressive tables has turned into a massive loss. 

Some of the decisions made in these hands such as the AI I did in hand one was extremely poor.

Lazybadger	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£22.07
iBluffLots	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£17.04
	Your hole cards	Q Q
sevenup234	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£8.58
craigcu12	Raise		£0.40	£0.65	£15.38
x	Raise		£1.40	£2.05	£20.94
Lazybadger	Fold
iBluffLots	Fold
sevenup234	Fold
craigcu12	Raise		£3.60	£5.65	£11.78
x	Call		£2.60	£8.25	£18.34
Flop
		K 6 2
craigcu12	Check
x	Check
Turn
		A
craigcu12	Bet		£4.00	£12.25	£7.78
x	Call		£4.00	£16.25	£14.34
River
		K
craigcu12	Check
x	All-in		£14.34	£30.59	£0.00
craigcu12	All-in		£7.78	£38.37	£0.00
x	Unmatched bet		£6.56	£31.81	£6.56
craigcu12	Show	Q Q
x	Show	K A
x	Win	Full House, Kings and Aces	£30.41		£36.97

seesthruu	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£15.41
craigcu12	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£13.89
	Your hole cards	Q Q
lou14uk14	Fold
x	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£10.33
seesthruu	Fold
craigcu12	Raise		£0.85	£1.30	£13.04
x	Call		£0.65	£1.95	£9.68
Flop
		9 10 4
craigcu12	Check
x	Bet		£1.46	£3.41	£8.22
craigcu12	Call		£1.46	£4.87	£11.58
Turn
		6
craigcu12	Check
x	Bet		£2.44	£7.31	£5.78
craigcu12	Call		£2.44	£9.75	£9.14
River
		3
craigcu12	Check
x	All-in		£5.78	£15.53	£0.00
craigcu12	Call		£5.78	£21.31	£3.36
craigcu12	Show	Q Q
x	Show	10 10
x	Win	Three 10s	£19.91		£19.91

I don't know much about this player but I do have him colour coded as a loose passive

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KrazyAce	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£7.96
swordsyboy	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£6.01
	Your hole cards	J Q
x	Raise		£0.20	£0.35	£17.02
jackl	Fold

craigcu12

ONe thing that does seen common with my current game is I'm rarely able to get big pots  I can't even make a full stack in coolers because villians are only ever calling me yet big pots are lost all the time.

Jac35

Why do you go big on possible bad boards  and then check seemingly good flops?

jdsallstar

Hand 1 QQ: dont know what we can really expect to be beating when we call the shove on the river.

Hand 2 QQ: I would raise bigger pre and why are we not betting a 10 high runny board and the 6 turn.

Hand 3 JQ: I think I'd raise the flop

Hand 4 AA: why are we not betting the turn?

Hand 5 AK: ok and plays out like this.

Hand 6 10 Q: 7 on turn seems like a pretty decent card to follow through on as does the 7 river.

craigcu12

hands 2 and hand 4 When ever I am out of position the rivsk of a set always comes to my mind, I'm always thinking that they will fold most pairs and I don't very often expect them to have draws. 

I can probably conclude that I have been a generally poor player in the last few days, I look back at my hand range and notice atleast £50 of the recent loss is my own fault.

darrentino

Unfortunately it's the nature of the beast, we all have days where we make bad decisions, i certainly do. I would say that you're one of the better players at that level so just keep at it mate, it'll turn around.

shakinaces

I think in a lot of those you want to be taking a bet / fold line rather than check / call line, particularly at the stake level you are playing.  So many of these players bluff too little so you end up paying off made hands if you opt to check/call.

1st hand - kinda sucks especially being deep. 
Think I'd check turn with A and K out there, as what do you either burn money (if they have Ax or Kx) or are turning your hand into a bluff (if they have 88-JJ).

I'd bet on a lower turn card (to maybe get value from 88-JJ and prevent things like AQ/AJ getting a free card to bink an Ace river).

River call is just spew.  Struggle to think of many bluff hands a player would have at these levels.  They aren't going to be turning things like 88-99 into a bluff.

2nd hand - you just have to cbet here and are missing so much value by checking. 

In this case you probably get check-raised on flop (and have a tough fold) or turn (and have an easier fold), but there are SO many bad turn cards for your hand (any spade, any A,K for overcards, J,T,9,8,7,6 for straight and 2pr hands).

At the same time it is so easy for your opponent to pay you off with worse (any flush draw, any straight draw, gutshots, top pair etc).

3rd hand - post flop I think this is just a cooler, although against that particular player I would expect to see the straight or a set almost all the time.

Preflop... meh I'm not sure I'd call QJo vs an UTG open, even as a min raise.

4th hand - same as 2nd hand really, you have to bet the turn here for value. Tx hands will still call and because of the board you probably also get called by some other middle pocket pairs, any hand that picked up a flush draw and maybe even some Ax gutshots.

Sure, in this case you'll probably get raised on the turn (and probably should fold multiway) but it's a mistake not to bet turn IMO.

5th hand - may consider shoving pre... but lots of people seem to love the limp/3bet with AA at these levels.  You have to do your stack here, but make sure to take a note on players that do this.

6th hand - agreed as above, if we are going to bluff the flop then we have to follow through and bluff the turn.

You should probably even fold the 10p river then as I can't see any flop hand calling which we beat on the river... but obv a sigh call is fair for the very rare time Q high is good lol.

If villain calls turn then just need to add notes and maybe play draws more passively in future / go for more value with top pair hands or better.

craigcu12

Thanks for advice.

I can conclude from today that my overall play recently has been awful. Friday was a story of bad luck calling stations and donks everywhere bad beats were all over the place. I got too over reactive about this and begun making awful decisions myself by over valuing my hand creating big pots on dangerous boards, not wanting to give up my hand and consistantly blaming the stuff on bad beats. 

Today itself brought a series of bad beats and coolers 469BB was lost in 5 hands where I commited 50BB and 384BB was won in 5 hands where I commited 50BB+. That did't stop me from finishing my day with a BR 24BB bigger. therefore concluding that my overall value betting of recent times has been at fault 

This here was my worst one of all yesterday

Robh180	Sit out
	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£6.46
	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£12.75
	Your hole cards	K A
x	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£36.93
	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£5.57
craigcu12	Raise		£0.50	£0.85	£21.76
	Fold
	Fold
x	Call		£0.40	£1.25	£36.53
	Fold
Flop
		4 8 J
x	Check
craigcu12	Bet		£0.60	£1.85	£21.16
x	Call		£0.60	£2.45	£35.93
Turn
		7
x	Check
craigcu12	Check
River
		5
x	Bet		£1.50	£3.95	£34.43
craigcu12	Raise		£3.50	£7.45	£17.66
x	Raise		£8.00	£15.45	£26.43
craigcu12	All-in		£17.66	£33.11	£0.00
x	Call		£11.66	£44.77	£14.77
x	Show	10 9
craigcu12	Show	K A
x	Win	Straight Flush to the Jack	£43.37		£58.1

hhyftrftdr

It sounds nitty but there are 3 combos of straight flushes out there, I think its maybe overly optimistic to think you're getting the lot from the bare Kc when you reraise again on the river, so unless you have notes/history saying they'll spew or massively overvalue, I'd be inclined to flat their £8 repop.

Still pretty unfortunate to run into a straight flush, though how the hand played out (limped pre, checked through on turn), and particularly the river action, they gave you a decent chance to not do the lot.

craigcu12

In Response to Re: Which of these are bad luck and which are bad play:

It sounds nitty but there are 3 combos of straight flushes out there, I think its maybe overly optimistic to think you're getting the lot from the bare Kc when you reraise again on the river, so unless you have notes/history saying they'll spew or massively overvalue, I'd be inclined to flat their £8 repop. Still pretty unfortunate to run into a straight flush, though how the hand played out (limped pre, checked through on turn), and particularly the river action, they gave you a decent chance to not do the lot.
Posted by hhyftrftdr

I don't thinks it's nitty at all, I myself would have called the £8 any good day, What happened here was I got too quick with my decisions, The only danger I saw on the turn was the flush put on thought what so ever into the straight and The only straight flush I did think about on the river was 6c 4c and that was most likely helpedby the fact I could see any 6 makes a straight.

thejudge10

  1st hand.

 Why dont you bet the flop,one opponent,one over card,poss flush draw.

 Turn now two overs,and a flush, check, depending on bet fold .

 River another king, you check, he shoves ,you call.

 When you re raise  pre ,and he calls, what range did you put him on, i mean its a 40bb .

 Through the deal your hand is only getting weaker .

 I would have bet the flop,and been prepaired to fold to a re raise, check the turn,and fold.

  sorry m8 but you played badly.

 seems to me your playing a frightened