I want to play some MTT's but don't like Bounty Hunters. Please help me Sky!!

Duesenberg

I've almost exclusively been a cash game player for donkeys years but want to start mixing some MTT's into my playing schedule. For a number of reasons I'd like to do this on Sky but am really not keen on Bounty Hunters, which more often than not leaves me rather stuck. I'd like to play some regular No Limit Holdem MTT's in the £5.50-£33 buyin range but, with the odd rare exception aside, I'm left having to give this part of my action to other sites.

I'm sure I can't be the only player out there feeling this way so am posting in the hope of Sky adding some more variety to their MTT schedule. I for one am not fussed/enticed by guarantees so would be more than happy to see some of these games pop up with zero guaranteed prize funds just to see if they could gain some traction organically.

Please help Sky!!  

markycash

It would be fun if an 'old school' tourney was tried...

No bounties, no late reg, no rebuy, no re-entry and no addon.

To be honest I am not sure how it would do and I understand why things have moved on. Would be interesting to see how it done though.

rainman215

Good evening Duesenberg.

Has anyone mentioned the £2.20 @2.15 deepstack yet.

All the best.

Rainman215

MattBates

Every now and again someone posts something like this on the forum and a few on the forum agree. Sky then put tournaments on and they really struggle for numbers and they eventually die. Mega stack seems to be the only exception to this and players asked for it back and it has been well supported. Often the players who say they want certain games end up not playing which must be pretty frustrating for the sky guys.  

shakinaces

Given the success of the returning Mega Stack on Fridays, partly drawing from the Orfy player pool, IMO it'd be a nice addition to Monday evening as well - start around 7.30 at £5.50 and have a potentially more meaningful prize pool & non-BH game to run alongside the weekly DTD.

I also echo the OP but appreciate any significant change to schedule has almost no chance of happening now.  What can Sky do, the majority just love the low variance BHs!

Duesenberg

Thanks for the replies guys.

I think my interest in MTT's has been piqued recently by getting to play in the priority freerolls and also luckboxing my way onto the Vegas trip this year - both very much the 'old school' style of tourney Mark was alluding to. I wasn't aware of the Friday Mega Stack so will certainly take a closer look and obviously a big +1 from me for this style of tourney appearing with greater frequency in the schedule.

On all the other sites I have accounts with (which is most of them!), bounty hunter style tournaments are very much the exception rather than the norm - quite the reverse of what I have found when looking through the Sky schedule. I assumed this was a (sensible) business decision by Sky to keep money flowing round the poker ecosystem for longer before it eventually works its way up the pyramid into the pockets of crushers like Mr Bates. However, the replies in this thread so far suggest it may be more a consequence of the players on Sky voting with their feet. It's a bit like the old chicken and the egg conundrum and I wonder which came first - Sky heavily promoting BH's or Sky responding to choices of their customers in which types of tourneys they choose to play? If the latter is the case it is at least rather interesting as to why this trend doesn't appear to be repeated across the other major sites/networks.

P.S. Just in case it comes across that way, the above is not meant as either a moan or a criticism but merely a curious observation. If all I want do is play 20 deepstack freezouts a day there are certainly enough out there in the poker world at large to satisfy me!

scotty77

Ever since BH were introduced on this site many years ago, they were more popular than the non BH formats.  Fairly sure that Sky was one of the very first to introduce them, even before Stars.  The only site that I can remember that had them was an old network called Boss (quite possibly the worst poker software in history, but the 50k 110KO tournie on a Sunday was one of the most incredible you could ever see).

It is good for liquidity too as it keeps the money circuling around between more players.

Looking for pure ROI I'd prefer standard FO, but in terms of the long term health of the site then BHs are better for everyone.

Back in the day everyone went crazy for the bounties; it wasn't unusual to see 4 way all ins on the very first hand. I actually think it has moved into the other direction now and people are more on the tight side and don't play a correct style.

Matt is correct that this discussion has been brought up many times before and Sky have given some different formats a trial run, which sadly haven't been taken up by the player pool and have lead to some overlays.

That being said, I would like to see more normal games - would be nice to see some £22 £2kGTDs on the scheudle.  The problem is fitting them in - only so much time in the day.

Markycash - I remember the time when the nightly Open tournament had a 500 player cap that was reached 10 minutes before start - was a pure freezeout turbo, no late reg. I'd have the lobby open sometimes waiting for someone to unregister in order to get into the comp!  Crazy to think the numbers some of the tournies used to get!  But even 10 years ago the culture was so different.  People now are used to getting things on demand so actually being ready to play at a specific time would not work!

Jac35

It is most certainly that Sky have listened to their customers

They prefer bh on the whole 

I would prefer more freezeouts too but accept that Sky will schedule the most popular mtts

Jac35

In Response to Re: I want to play some MTT's but don't like Bounty Hunters. Please help me Sky!!:

Ever since BH were introduced on this site many years ago, they were more popular than the non BH formats.  Fairly sure that Sky was one of the very first to introduce them, even before Stars.  The only site that I can remember that had them was an old network called Boss (quite possibly the worst poker software in history, but the 50k 110KO tournie on a Sunday was one of the most incredible you could ever see). It is good for liquidity too as it keeps the money circuling around between more players. Looking for pure ROI I'd prefer standard FO, but in terms of the long term health of the site then BHs are better for everyone. Back in the day everyone went crazy for the bounties; I actually think it has moved into the other direction now and people are more on the tight side and don't play a correct style. Matt is correct that this discussion has been brought up many times before and Sky have given some different formats a trial run, which sadly haven't been taken up by the player pool and have lead to some overlays. That being said, I would like to see more normal games - would be nice to see some £22 £2kGTDs on the scheudle.  The problem is fitting them in - only so much time in the day.
Posted by scotty77

I remember the 90 mans on Full Tilt being knockouts with a fixed prize for eliminating an opponent. Think it was $4 in the $24s Slightly different but that was the first kind of mtt that veered away from the standard freezeouts that I recall

scotty77

Ah never really played on FTP, it wouldn't surprise me that they were the first to offer this format.  They did seem to innovate and come up with new ideas better than everyone else - shame they couldn't keep their accounts in shape tho!

markycash

In Response to Re: I want to play some MTT's but don't like Bounty Hunters. Please help me Sky!!:

Markycash - I remember the time when the nightly Open tournament had a 500 player cap that was reached 10 minutes before start - was a pure freezeout turbo, no late reg. I'd have the lobby open sometimes waiting for someone to unregister in order to get into the comp!  Crazy to think the numbers some of the tournies used to get!  But even 10 years ago the culture was so different.  People now are used to getting things on demand so actually being ready to play at a specific time would not work!
Posted by scotty77

Yeah I agree, couldn't see the old style working en masse these days. Maybe a one off tourney for novely value but the schedule has evolved so much. 

Duesenberg

Thanks for the heads up guys - thoroughly enjoyed the mega stack and this tourney fish even managed a min cash :-)

Can we have one every night please?!?