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Mayweather V McGregor - Massive fight or pure pantomime? Or maybe both?

markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
edited August 2017 in Sports & Betting Chat
When it was announced on June 14th that Floyd Mayweather was to come out of retirement and fight Conor McGregor many boxing experts were utterly dismissive of UFC fighter McGregor's chances. Manny Pacquiao even went as far as to question whether McGregor would be able to land a meaningful punch on Floyd. I seem to remember odds being offered in the region of 25/1 on a McGregor win with some ex-boxers chuckling at the prospect of McGregor winning. All this seemed understandable as Floyd was 49-0 and McGregor had never boxed professionally.

The fight was, and still is by many, billed as pure pantomime aimed at generating massive paydays for both stars.

The odds on McGregor have gradually shortened though. After the announcement a few days ago by the Nevada State Athletic Commission to allow 8oz gloves to be used the odds on a McGregor win have shortened further still. McGregor, the fighter many completely dismissed, was down to odds of 7/2 with some bookmakers with Mayweather drifting to 2/7.

How many fighters have fought Mayweather and been on shorter odds? I remember 5/1 being offered on Amir Khan to beat Mayweather should they ever decide to step into the ring together. If I recall correctly Saul Alverez, an unbeaten hot prospect in boxing at the time, was on similar odds to those offered on McGregor for his match up with Mayweather. So what has changed? Are the odds correct and this is actually a meaningful competitive fight afterall or are McGregor fans backing their man in droves and skewing the odds? If the latter is the case then 2/7 on Mayweather could be incredible value.

I have never watched McGregor fight live but am mildly curious as to how this will all unfold in Las Vegas next Saturday. I am still not sure whether I feel this is a genuinely massive competitive fight or a bit of pantomime best reserved for the wrestling industry. I was in the pantomime camp before but am now thrown a little by the shortening of odds on McGregor.

The cynic in me does wonder one thing though. If McGregor were to land a 'lucky punch' and beat Mayweather...

Just how much money would a rematch generate for both men?

It is certainly true that Floyd 'Money' Mayweather is not desperate for cash, although he does seem to be rather obsessed with it. However this is already expected to be the richest fight in boxing history, even when some critics are slamming the fight as pantomime. If McGregor were to 'prove the critics wrong' so to speak then it is safe to say that both men would be lined up for a rematch payday that would put the current one firmly into the shadows.

Could the possibility of a mega payday which eclipses even this one influence the outcome or am I just letting my cynical side come to the fore?

Comments

  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited August 2017
    id be shocked if mayweather doesnt win easily. 1st few rounds conner will chase him around ring with mayweather picking him off in later rounds. imo biggest mismatch ever.

    looks like ive got a poker night plus watching the circus act so be decent night for me.
    for any that have not seen mayweather watch him on youtube vs ricky hatton. btw hatton would destroy conner aswell.

    switch it and put any boxer vs a ufc in a ufc fight then of course the ufc fighter destroys him.

    ill be backing mayweather and doing rounds 678.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,783
    edited August 2017
    In Response to Re: Mayweather V McGregor - Massive fight or pure pantomime? Or maybe both?:
    id be shocked if mayweather doesnt win easily. 1st few rounds conner will chase him around ring with mayweather picking him off in later rounds. imo biggest mismatch ever. looks like ive got a poker night plus watching the circus act so be decent night for me. for any that have not seen mayweather watch him on youtube vs ricky hatton. btw hatton would destroy conner aswell. switch it and put any boxer vs a ufc in a ufc fight then of course the ufc fighter destroys him. ill be backing mayweather and doing rounds 678.
    Posted by MICKYBLUE
    3 yrs ago easy KO win for Mayweather-fear he is shot now. Should still win easily on Points
  • dragon1964dragon1964 Member Posts: 3,054
    edited August 2017
    I fail to see what the real point of this circus is.

    Sky hyping the sh.. out of it

    An ex boxer v a non boxer and they both get about 100 million each.

    What the F... for?
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited August 2017
    I was a bit cynical of this fight at first but quite looking forward to it now

    I thik the only reason pundits on Sky are giving McGregor any chance at all  is to sell the fight. Think Mayweather at 1.29 is a great price, and really can,t see it going the distance so gone for slightly better odds with a win by KO,TKO or DQ at 1.89

    EDIT : wow - just watching one of the build up programs on Sky Sports News where they are doing a poll of who,s gonna win - 80k votes and its only 52% for Mayweather - 48% for Mcgregor
  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited August 2017
    In Response to Re: Mayweather V McGregor - Massive fight or pure pantomime? Or maybe both?:
    I was a bit cynical of this fight at first but quite looking forward to it now I thik the only reason pundits on Sky are giving  McGregor any chance at all  is to sell the fight. Think Mayweather at 1.29 is a great price, and really can,t see it going the distance so gone for slightly better odds with a win by KO,TKO or DQ at 1.89 EDIT : wow - just watching one of the build up programs on Sky Sports News where they are doing a poll of who,s gonna win - 80k votes and its only 52% for Mayweather - 48% for Mcgregor
    Posted by MP33
    I also see McGregor has shortened to 5/2 with some bookmakers and you can get 3/10 on a Mayweather win. 

    3/10 seems incredible odds for a 49-0 fighter versus an 0-0 fighter.

    Mayweather by TKO, KO or disqualification at 5/6.
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,434
    edited August 2017
    In Response to Re: Mayweather V McGregor - Massive fight or pure pantomime? Or maybe both?:
    In Response to Re: Mayweather V McGregor - Massive fight or pure pantomime? Or maybe both? : I also see McGregor has shortened to 5/2 with some bookmakers and you can get 3/10 on a Mayweather win.  3/10 seems incredible odds for a 49-0 fighter versus an 0-0 fighter. Mayweather by TKO, KO or disqualification at 5/6.
    Posted by markycash[/QUOTE

    It a joke fight,In saying that I will be watching it and punting Mayweather lol.
















  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited August 2017
    I would say it is a huge event, but no boxing match.

    I can only see 2 results to the fight and luckily there is a bet  for that:

    Mayweather to win on points or by disqualification 11/8.

    I think the only threat to that is Mayweather winning by KO/TKO.

    If I am proved wrong then it will be one sensational event.

    I also think that McGregor to have a point deducted at 2/1 looks value.


  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited August 2017
    Odds shortening across the board on a Mayweather win.

    Can't see this going the distance so Mayweather by KO at 8/11 looks like the bet to me.
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited August 2017
    The fact that both camps are saying it wont go the distance is prefight hype imo. 

    McGregor knows his only chance is to get a KO, he wants a brawl. He will have to take risks, but him going forward will play into Mayweather's style.

    Mayweather is too smart to take risks, using his defensive skills and picking McGregor off with punches on target but not much weight behind them.  Mayweather will do what it takes to win the fight and preserve himself. I doubt he will be opening up looking for a knockdown (and risking taking a big shot) when he is likely to be comfortably building a huge points lead.

    He has bagged his $100M and a 50-0 record will be a great legacy and help add to the brand value in retirement. He also hasn't knocked anyone out for 6 years.

    That's why I went for points, or a DQ if McGregor does something silly out of frustration or using some MMA moves instinctively. The odds looked more value than the KO/TKO to me.

    Just my opinion and rationale I make no claims to be an expert.


  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited August 2017
    In Response to Re: Mayweather V McGregor - Massive fight or pure pantomime? Or maybe both?:
    The fact that both camps are saying it wont go the distance is prefight hype imo.  McGregor knows his only chance is to get a KO, he wants a brawl. He will have to take risks, but him going forward will play into Mayweather's style. Mayweather is too smart to take risks, using his defensive skills and picking McGregor off with punches on target but not much weight behind them.  Mayweather will do what it takes to win the fight and preserve himself. I doubt he will be opening up looking for a knockdown (and risking taking a big shot) when he is likely to be comfortably building a huge points lead. He has bagged his $100M and a 50-0 record will be a great legacy and help add to the brand value in retirement. He also hasn't knocked anyone out for 6 years. That's why I went for points, or a DQ if McGregor does something silly out of frustration or using some MMA moves instinctively. The odds looked more value than the KO/TKO to me. Just my opinion and rationale I make no claims to be an expert.
    Posted by Phantom66

    Good post Phantom

    Certainly a valid opinion and I see where you are coming from.

    I just think that McGregor will be so inexperienced in the boxing ring that he will leave many gaps for Floyd to land. I think the effect of these will build up and easily allow Floyd to snag his 1st victory for 6 years by way of KO.
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited August 2017
    Ok so I was wrong :(

    Got away with a profit though as the main bet was on a straight Mayweather win. 

    I was basically freerolling me being right about it going the distance and also lost a £5 free bet on 20/1 Mayweather to win on points and McGregor to be deducted a point. Given it was stoppoed only 2 rounds short and McGregor was continually punching to the back of the head and hit with a low blow I will take that as good value which didnt come off.
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