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Best line here on river?

gazza127gazza127 Member Posts: 2,156
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
KahviSmall blind50.0050.0012383.32
BoomtizleBig blind100.00150.0014325.11
Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
_FWAM_Fold
gazza127Raise200.00350.009445.00
FishywormCall200.00550.0017108.47
SenorBegsFold
KahviCall150.00700.0012233.32
BoomtizleCall100.00800.0014225.11
Flop
  • 2
  • A
  • 6
KahviCheck
BoomtizleCheck
gazza127Bet400.001200.009045.00
FishywormCall400.001600.0016708.47
KahviCall400.002000.0011833.32
BoomtizleFold
Turn
  • 9
KahviCheck
gazza127Bet1000.003000.008045.00
FishywormCall1000.004000.0015708.47
KahviFold
River
  • 6
gazza127Check
FishywormBet2357.006357.0013351.47
gazza127Call2357.008714.005688.00
FishywormShow

Comments

  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    Yours
  • FeelGroggyFeelGroggy Member Posts: 840
    I think we should check turn. On the turn our hand is going to struggle to get 3 streets from worse often, and there are no bad rivers for our hand. Also if he checks back we can make a bigger value bet on the turn than we did here, as he is gonna be weighted to Ax we beat and a lot of people pay off to bet check bet lines. So on this bricky riv we can prob make it like 1500 and get called by any Ace that folds v 3 streets.

    As played I prefer a thin 3 streets than check call, with the intention to bet fold. He just doesn't have anything that he can bluff so if we check and he bets we needs to decide if we beat enough of his thin vb's to call. When we check here and he bets 2.4k its awkward but I might find a fold if I didn't think villain would bet hands like AJ, A8s-ATs which is another reason I prefer betting river because those hands might find a call to a bet but might mainly check back.
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118

    I think we should check turn. On the turn our hand is going to struggle to get 3 streets from worse often, and there are no bad rivers for our hand. Also if he checks back we can make a bigger value bet on the turn than we did here, as he is gonna be weighted to Ax we beat and a lot of people pay off to bet check bet lines. So on this bricky riv we can prob make it like 1500 and get called by any Ace that folds v 3 streets.

    As played I prefer a thin 3 streets than check call, with the intention to bet fold. He just doesn't have anything that he can bluff so if we check and he bets we needs to decide if we beat enough of his thin vb's to call. When we check here and he bets 2.4k its awkward but I might find a fold if I didn't think villain would bet hands like AJ, A8s-ATs which is another reason I prefer betting river because those hands might find a call to a bet but might mainly check back.

    It is nice that you are trying to contribute on the forum but given it seems like you can't win playing MTTs anymore I am not sure how useful your contributions are.
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    Wow :smiley:
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    Great post Danny, I seen there was another post you made, can't remember where, but it was really spot on to do with that particular hand analysis.

    I agree with Danny that the turn is a check, would be really interesting to see what a solver would say, I suspect it might say having As we should be betting turn a very small % of the time but over all checking.

    River is very difficult given we bet the turn, i'll go with Groggy's line :p

    As played I don't know, I don't think we are ever good but it is a really small bet so guess we have to call.
  • LemonSauceLemonSauce Member Posts: 2
    Groggy... AK can't go 3 streets, but you can check/call river v worse value hands? Lol And I disagree w/people paying off bet/check/bet lines.
    People haven't taken this line as a bluff since 1972!
    If i'm villain, flop cbet into 2 blind callers defines your range from the off
    Prolly not cbetting KJhh here right?
    bet/check/bet turns our hand face up here and if i'm villain I love a river jam over your b/c/b line.
    However, as played I think I can feel pretty good about a fold. What hand can he get to river with that bluffs?
    No flop floats turn equity to peel again.
    Given there aren't really any bad runouts for your hand, maybe a bet/check/check line is better? Your range looks weakest and induce more turn bluffs and get 3 streets more often.
    I would feel better about betting flop/check-calling turn/check calling river than B/B/C
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