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How Would you Play this Hand?

LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
This is from a Final Table, 6 players still remaining .

In this hand I make 1 mistakes, and potentially a secondary smaller mistake as well.

I would love to hear peoples opinions on this hand and spot. Whether you play £1.1 MTTs or £1100 MTTs it would be great to hear as many views as possible.

It can be really hard to read Sky HH's, so here is a quick recap.

We start the hand with just under 18bbs and are dealt AK UTG, blinds 4k/8k

We Min Raise UTG to 16K, it folds to the button who calls, both blinds fold. Pot is 42k.

We have 127K behind, button has us covered.

Flop: 10J3 Rainbow.

We Check

Button bets 16k, we move all in.



TTayseer Small blind 4000.00 4000.00 329007.38
gac123 Big blind 8000.00 12000.00 219861.05
Your hole cards
K
A

LARSON7 Raise 16000.00 28000.00 127430.86
MaoiChinnn Fold
nuffle Fold
x Call 16000.00 44000.00 471576.96
TTayseer Fold
gac123 Fold
Flop

J
3
10

LARSON7 Check
xBet 16000.00 60000.00 455576.96
LARSON7 All-in 127430.86

Comments

  • conorshay1conorshay1 Member Posts: 139
    I probably would of jammed pre, or raised 3x then jammed if called, still got 2 overs and a Q for straight, but prob jammed pre knowing me as I usually lose if I small raise and the flop comes down
  • FeelGroggyFeelGroggy Member Posts: 843
    I think jamming pre and min-raising are both fine, although I heavily lean to jam if a BH format.
    Pretty tough situation oop on the flop here.

    I think you could justify betting small with a lot of your hands here. You shouldn't be opening too liberally here and can have all the strongest hands whereas button is more capped having not jammed pre, although think his button flat range is going to connect with this board quite often as he's going to find hands like QJ, KJ AT KT QT, KQ perhaps AJ, JTs T9s, which he might choose to see a flop with instead of jam.

    I think I go around 12-14k on the flop with the view to barrel turn at some frequency. cards like 9s 8s and board pairs are cards we want to give up on. If we bet something like 14k on flop the pot is 70k playing 113k behind. If we then opt to go something like 38k-44k its gonna put him in a really tough spot with some of his more marginal preflop calls like 2nd pair or some pp's that call one. Could even bet flop smaller like 11-12k to keep his range wider so 2nd barrel has more fold equity, and we don't have to use as many chips firing turn barrel. Would have to use same sizings w value if competent opponent though :)

    We also block some combinations of hands that he's always calling down with - KJ/AJ. He might raise flop with top pair or jam his kq type stuff which might make his range even more vulnerable. And its a hand we can bet fold turn to a jam without feeling too bad about getting the right price to flick it in. I think a lot of how you play this hand depends on villain. I think especially if villain is a thinking player this line might be really scary as all your big pp's are gonna induce pre, whereas AK AQ are gonna just open jam at some frequency and people might not expect you to take this line with them. I think if we get called on turn giving up brick rivers is gonna be reasonable as villain will be getting insane price and a head prize for knocking you out so betting river doesn't have much fold equity, if any.

    Could even just check fold flop and just use KQ to barrel with. Or bet flop whenever you have a bd fd and bet call / check jam turn when you make a fd on turn.

    Actually think this is a really interesting spot and would be curious as to how other players approach it. I think how you range villain when he flats pre is super important, and reads you have on how stubborn he is postflop. Could be the difference between check folding or potentially barrelling. I think once we check flop here we just have to sigh fold, as don't see villain having too many bluffs in his range and makes it less likely he has a marginal hand. His range does connect well with this board so think check folding is a fine line too.

    Of course as someone who's stuck over £2k in a week of these I might not be the best placed to give HH advice, so feel free to disregard everything I've said ;)

  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    I’m jamming utg with ak it the least exploitable move I’m min raising jj+ and jamming 88 - 1010 everything else is a fold for me.
    I would also flat the flop bet of 16k and fold to any more pressure on turn. If opponent checks turn we can re evaluate turning the hand into a bluff but that would be opponent dependent
  • CraigSG1CraigSG1 Member Posts: 1,832
    Glad I'm not in the minority as I too would jam here, especially in BH format but in most others as well. My main reason is that we are just going to be in too many awkward spots being oop. What if we get two or more callers? We could flop top pr and still be behind or miss and still be ahead. Same goes if we are just heads up. And in situations like you find with over cards and a gut shot to the nuts you can't really play down the streets and give yourself multiple ways to win, you just leave yourself with hope for the best plays.

    I just think that the easier you can make your decisions, the better.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    Hey everyone, great responses, thanks. I agree, jamming pre would have been superior.
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    What are the other stack sizes? Surely this (icm) hugely affects our decision
  • Simmy4kSimmy4k Member Posts: 66
    I'd also like to know stack sizes.

    Do we have to jam pre? Are we not stopping a bunch of worse hands 3bing if we do that?

    I just open like you. Check flop like you. And a lot of time go mad and jam like you.

    Should just check fold on the flop though. No harm in giving up on flops that favour our opponents.

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