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Poker Variance can TK please explain what this is ... in the world of computers

mrhappy38mrhappy38 Member Posts: 152
After much time i have now worked out that poker variance does not apply to computers, I can call flops and turns and Rivers 95 % of the time and Variance does not fix that mode, in a real life deal then shore it would work, but not on the internet, sorry to burst your bubble.

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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    You sound a bit unhappy, mrhappy38
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
  • LmfaoAllinLmfaoAllin Member Posts: 1,213
    mrhappy38 said:

    After much time i have now worked out that poker variance does not apply to computers, I can call flops and turns and Rivers 95 % of the time and Variance does not fix that mode, in a real life deal then shore it would work, but not on the internet, sorry to burst your bubble.

    Wow, you must be printing.
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited November 2017
    mrhappy38 said:

    After much time i have now worked out that poker variance does not apply to computers, I can call flops and turns and Rivers 95 % of the time and Variance does not fix that mode, in a real life deal then shore it would work, but not on the internet, sorry to burst your bubble.

    I wouldn't be so shore about that.

  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,184
    edited November 2017
    Disappointed that Tikay hasn't explained what it is in the world of computers. I've been on the edge of my seat all day long.
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    mrhappy38 said:

    After much time i have now worked out that poker variance does not apply to computers, I can call flops and turns and Rivers 95 % of the time and Variance does not fix that mode, in a real life deal then shore it would work, but not on the internet, sorry to burst your bubble.

    Would need a very large sample size on this to be shore
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,183
    edited November 2017
    Maybe tikay hasnt spotted this..ill tag him @Tikay10 , question for you.

  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,878


    Oh Lloyd what have you done now
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    mrhappy38 said:

    After much time i have now worked out that poker variance does not apply to computers, I can call flops and turns and Rivers 95 % of the time and Variance does not fix that mode, in a real life deal then shore it would work, but not on the internet, sorry to burst your bubble.

    Morning @mrhappy38.

    Sorry for delayed reply, it's a job to reply to that to be honest.

    Variance applies to everything, everywhere, & that certainly includes Online poker.

    Did you see who won the UKOPS Main Event? It was a player who only plays £0.28 DYM's & Freerolls. She won over £12,000. Everyone was delighted for her, & nobody suggested there was something wrong with the software. Was she the best player in the UKOPS Main Event? No. Be a job to argue that, wouldn't it? She played great, but she won, and that was partly thanks to variance. And that is why we all love poker so much.

    @MattBates might be the best MTT player on Sky Poker. He's definitely among the best. Did he win the UKOPS Main Event?

    If, say, Phil Ivey or Phil Hellmuth played tonight's Sky Poker Main Event, & it had 300 runners, what price would either of them be to win it? 10/1? 20/1? They could play the nightly Main Event on Sky Poker every day for a month & not win it. That's variance.

    I'm going to issue you a friendly challenge on your belief that you can "call flops & turns 95% of the time". Because you can't. If you could, you'd be a zillionaire by now, you would NEVER LOSE. So let me know next time you are playing. & I'll join the rail of your table. Then you can type in the chat box what the flop & turn are going to be.

    And if you can correctly predict the flop & turn 9 times out of 10........

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,815
    Is that The Lone Rangers hat you are eating?
  • mrhappy38mrhappy38 Member Posts: 152
    I Never said that i was playing in them.....
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,741
    That's what I like about Jim Hensons legacy. Always a new muppet just around the corner.

    Yours in poker

    Mark
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,815
    mrhappy38 said:

    I Never said that i was playing in them.....

    Lone Rangers hat is safe
  • mrhappy38mrhappy38 Member Posts: 152
    "Everyone was delighted for her, & nobody suggested there was something wrong with the software."

    Where did i say software as i had a degree in Computer Software i would not.
    and because you said that then i would guess you don't.

    In real game Variance does come in to play, but alas it does not on Computers, because if they did i would not not keep a single penny on something that they run.

    and i'm still call 90% to 95% of flops, because i known how a compute thinks.

    and it's not all my games.....
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    mrhappy38 said:

    "Everyone was delighted for her, & nobody suggested there was something wrong with the software."

    Where did i say software as i had a degree in Computer Software i would not.
    and because you said that then i would guess you don't.

    In fairness to Tikay, I'm not sure Computer Science degrees were even a thing when he was in school.
  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited January 2018
    Okay, I will bite.
    mrhappy38 said:



    Where did i say software as i had a degree in Computer Software i would not.

    Excuse my, possibly clumsy, attempt to make sense of that sentence. Are you saying that you "had a degree in Computer Software"? Did you misplace it?
    mrhappy38 said:



    and it's not all my games.....

    Okay, I know this is not an academic setting but, please indulge me... There is some debate as to whether there are 3 or 4 periods in an ellipsis. However, I think there is quite strong consensus that there are not 5.
    mrhappy38 said:



    and i'm still call 90% to 95% of flops, because i known how a compute thinks.

    Why in the world would you ever complain if this was the case? I would be laying atop a rather large pile of notes doing 'snow angels' with £ notes taking the place of the snow if I were you, in that scenario.
    mrhappy38 said:



    In real game Variance does come in to play, but alas it does not on Computers, because if they did i would not not keep a single penny on something that they run.

    You cannot generalise between RNGs, 'computers in general' and real life when talking about variance. Variance, as a topic, is highly nuanced and there are different sets of assumptions depending on which domain you are debating it in relation to.

    In the words of Tim Minchin "Most of society's arguments are kept alive by a failure to acknowledge nuance. Arguing one point using two entirely different sets of assumptions is a bit like two tennis players trying to win a tennis match by hitting beautifully executed shots... on different tennis courts".

    Truly great speech that if anyone has 6 minutes 42 seconds to kill...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpGRn7DjnOs

  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,878
    marky stop taking the ellipsis out of them will you you might get reported
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,247
    mrhappy38 said:

    "Everyone was delighted for her, & nobody suggested there was something wrong with the software."

    Where did i say software as i had a degree in Computer Software i would not.
    and because you said that then i would guess you don't.

    In real game Variance does come in to play, but alas it does not on Computers, because if they did i would not not keep a single penny on something that they run.

    and i'm still call 90% to 95% of flops, because i known how a compute thinks.

    and it's not all my games.....


    Computers cant think.
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,756
    Tim Minchin’s speech - fab.
  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    Oy!-- My computator thinks I am good at chess (level 4), is it stupid, or is that variance?
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