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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    ISS
    What goes up must come down (sooner than expected)?
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    NEW: J6 Report Released Today shows the Acting Secretary of Defense, Chris Miller, IGNORED AND DISMISSED President Donald Trumps January 3, 2021, Directive to use Military Assets to Ensure the Safety of everyone on January 6

    “There was no way I was putting active military forces at the Capitol…”

    WHY?
    Because he didn’t want to be seen as a “Trump Crony” and provoke Civil War… and he worried about what Twitter would say. 👇


  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    edited December 2024
    Why is there a ban on showing an up to date picture of him, after all he is an adult now.


  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    About right


  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    So who has been running the country for the last 4 years?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,875
    VespaPX said:

    So who has been running the country for the last 4 years?

    An awful lot of things in the Press are dressed up in overly-simplistic terms. Put simply, people do not fall into just the 2 categories of "senile" and "not senile". However much the Daily Mail tries to convince its largely elderly readers otherwise.

    There is a lot of debate about when cognitive decline begins to have a major impact. The process probably begins in ones 30s or 40s, but starts to become a major issue somewhere between 55 and 70.

    Biden is approaching the end of his Presidency. He has just turned 82-that will be 6 months younger than Trump will be at the end of his.

    Both Biden and Trump clearly have major cognitive impairment. A road that the near-4 years older Biden is probably 4 years ahead.

    Not the first President to have Dementia. Reagan did-but successfully surrounded himself with capable men. That and the media glare wasn't as all-encompassing as today. The post of President is not nearly as important as people are led to believe-they are the public face of thousands of people

    And most certainly not the last. Trump will be the next. There is a reason that leaders throughout history have been under 70.

    I want to listen to the words of old men. But I don't want them running a Country.

    When I'm their age my limit would be running a bath :)
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    edited December 2024
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    edited December 2024
    How is this guy even allowed to be close to seats of power?
    He's either compromised or someone has dirt on him.

    "In 2019, UK's Channel 4 aired an episode of Dispatches in which a source close to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein claimed that Peter Mandelson (while serving as a UK Cabinet Minister) made a phone call to Epstein in order to set up a meeting with Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan. In June 2023, an internal JPMorgan report from 2019, filed to a New York court, found that "Jeffrey Epstein appears to maintain a particularly close relationship with Prince Andrew, Duke of York and Lord Peter Mandelson, a senior member of the British government".[117]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    So who has been running the country for the last 4 years?

    An awful lot of things in the Press are dressed up in overly-simplistic terms. Put simply, people do not fall into just the 2 categories of "senile" and "not senile". However much the Daily Mail tries to convince its largely elderly readers otherwise.

    There is a lot of debate about when cognitive decline begins to have a major impact. The process probably begins in ones 30s or 40s, but starts to become a major issue somewhere between 55 and 70.

    Biden is approaching the end of his Presidency. He has just turned 82-that will be 6 months younger than Trump will be at the end of his.

    Both Biden and Trump clearly have major cognitive impairment. A road that the near-4 years older Biden is probably 4 years ahead.

    Not the first President to have Dementia. Reagan did-but successfully surrounded himself with capable men. That and the media glare wasn't as all-encompassing as today. The post of President is not nearly as important as people are led to believe-they are the public face of thousands of people

    And most certainly not the last. Trump will be the next. There is a reason that leaders throughout history have been under 70.

    I want to listen to the words of old men. But I don't want them running a Country.

    When I'm their age my limit would be running a bath :)
    Thank you for the reply.
    Would any executive orders signed by someone who has dementia be null and void?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,875
    edited December 2024
    VespaPX said:

    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    So who has been running the country for the last 4 years?

    An awful lot of things in the Press are dressed up in overly-simplistic terms. Put simply, people do not fall into just the 2 categories of "senile" and "not senile". However much the Daily Mail tries to convince its largely elderly readers otherwise.

    There is a lot of debate about when cognitive decline begins to have a major impact. The process probably begins in ones 30s or 40s, but starts to become a major issue somewhere between 55 and 70.

    Biden is approaching the end of his Presidency. He has just turned 82-that will be 6 months younger than Trump will be at the end of his.

    Both Biden and Trump clearly have major cognitive impairment. A road that the near-4 years older Biden is probably 4 years ahead.

    Not the first President to have Dementia. Reagan did-but successfully surrounded himself with capable men. That and the media glare wasn't as all-encompassing as today. The post of President is not nearly as important as people are led to believe-they are the public face of thousands of people

    And most certainly not the last. Trump will be the next. There is a reason that leaders throughout history have been under 70.

    I want to listen to the words of old men. But I don't want them running a Country.

    When I'm their age my limit would be running a bath :)
    Thank you for the reply.
    Would any executive orders signed by someone who has dementia be null and void?
    Goes back to what I said about dementia not being all or nothing. Dementia would have to be extreme for that to happen.

    True for Biden. Equally true for Trump-unless he got far, far worse.

    Biggest threat to Trump right now comes not from the Democrats, but from within his own Party. He seems to have decided that he can just ignore the will of the (Republican-controlled) Houses of Congress.

    Democrats have no particular reason to try and remove Trump-he cannot stand for a 3rd term. Whereas the battle for the future of the Republicans has started

    PS. I don't understand the Far Right's obsession with who may have known Epstein. Vile man. But there was a time when he knew just about everyone. Including Trump.

    In relation to Mandelson, very much a break with tradition. He is most certainly not a career Diplomat. Just goes to show how times have changed. Think it is right that, for that particular post, we need someone with political skills. Not personally a fan of Mandy-but I can see why he was appointed
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:

    So who has been running the country for the last 4 years?

    An awful lot of things in the Press are dressed up in overly-simplistic terms. Put simply, people do not fall into just the 2 categories of "senile" and "not senile". However much the Daily Mail tries to convince its largely elderly readers otherwise.

    There is a lot of debate about when cognitive decline begins to have a major impact. The process probably begins in ones 30s or 40s, but starts to become a major issue somewhere between 55 and 70.

    Biden is approaching the end of his Presidency. He has just turned 82-that will be 6 months younger than Trump will be at the end of his.

    Both Biden and Trump clearly have major cognitive impairment. A road that the near-4 years older Biden is probably 4 years ahead.

    Not the first President to have Dementia. Reagan did-but successfully surrounded himself with capable men. That and the media glare wasn't as all-encompassing as today. The post of President is not nearly as important as people are led to believe-they are the public face of thousands of people

    And most certainly not the last. Trump will be the next. There is a reason that leaders throughout history have been under 70.

    I want to listen to the words of old men. But I don't want them running a Country.

    When I'm their age my limit would be running a bath :)
    Thank you for the reply.
    Would any executive orders signed by someone who has dementia be null and void?
    Goes back to what I said about dementia not being all or nothing. Dementia would have to be extreme for that to happen.

    True for Biden. Equally true for Trump-unless he got far, far worse.

    Biggest threat to Trump right now comes not from the Democrats, but from within his own Party. He seems to have decided that he can just ignore the will of the (Republican-controlled) Houses of Congress.

    Democrats have no particular reason to try and remove Trump-he cannot stand for a 3rd term. Whereas the battle for the future of the Republicans has started

    PS. I don't understand the Far Right's obsession with who may have known Epstein. Vile man. But there was a time when he knew just about everyone. Including Trump.

    In relation to Mandelson, very much a break with tradition. He is most certainly not a career Diplomat. Just goes to show how times have changed. Think it is right that, for that particular post, we need someone with political skills. Not personally a fan of Mandy-but I can see why he was appointed
    What do you think of Musk?
    Is he just saying the right things to Trump to further his own agenda?
    At this point in time i'm not convinced about him at all...

    Oh and the Epstein thing, if we saw prosecutions of his "customers" then we could put it to bed.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    "Car drives into crowd" is like saying "gun walked into a school"
    Media is sh1t
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,179
    No comparison really.

    Cars do drive.
    Guns don't walk.




  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,211
    TooT TooT where are you...........

    Staggering amount UK would still be paying to EU without Brexit.

    Latest analysis suggests Britain would have had to hand over the same amount of money this year to the EU as Labour claim they needed to fix the "black hole" in the economy.

    Pro-Brexit research group Facts4EU say the UK Treasury would have needed to contribute £22.3 billion to the eurocrats in Brussels if the nation was still part of the political bloc.
    Sir Keir Starmer and Chancellor Rachel Reeves have claimed controversial policies, like axing winter fuel payments for the elderly, are necessary to fill a £22 billion hole in the public finances left by the Conservatives.

    The Prime Minister has already called for a reset in relations with the EU, but if the research from Facts4EU is accurate then Britain appears to have already made billions in savings from the historic Brexit vote in 2016.

    Britain does not contribute to the EU 2025 budget as a member state due to its exit from the EU on January 31, 2020.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,211
    Toot I've joined the " Royal Family " hic!
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