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bad luck or just crazy players

R__C__SR__C__S Member Posts: 16
edited March 2017 in Poker Chat
please tell me theres other players on this site who have the same thoughts. I have only been playing poker for around a year now, so things are still new to me, but is the right tactic to play poker, is to go gung ho on every single hand that is played? A large amount of players i play against consistantly raise, re-raise and go chip crazy even when blinds are set at 20-40? Ive had to fold many decent hands because of this betting strategy, and when i do go for it with a pair of jocks, some nutter goes all in with 3 - 7 for example. I just dont understand it.   
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  • emilyeggemilyegg Member Posts: 3,408
    edited March 2010
    Welcome to Sky Poker!!!
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  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,214
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    Welcome to Sky Poker!!!
    Posted by emilyegg
    +1
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  • big_mick12big_mick12 Member Posts: 210
    edited March 2010
    Surly you want to play players like this who value-town themselves? I dont understand when people moan about crazy play let me sit down at there table and ill take there money
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  • tikay1tikay1 Member Posts: 741
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    Welcome to Poker!!!
    Posted by emilyegg

    FYP. ;)
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  • AIRWALKERAIRWALKER Member Posts: 680
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    Surly you want to play players like this who value-town themselves? I dont understand when people moan about crazy play let me sit down at there table and ill take there money
    Posted by big_mick12
    Although i agree with what you are saying in principal mick i think it's a bit harsh to say that the poster is 'moaning' it is obvious that they don't know how to play against this type of player and are genuinely looking for advice.

    I think you should suss out who the players are and when you get good cards hit them hard if you can and take their chips off them as big mick is saying. Patience and timing is my opinion for what its worth.




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  • emilyeggemilyegg Member Posts: 3,408
    edited March 2010
    sorry tikay LOL
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited March 2010
    there are no nutters on this site!!!!
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  • emilyeggemilyegg Member Posts: 3,408
    edited March 2010
    Double LOL
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  • R__C__SR__C__S Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2010
    hi guys, im not moaning (well maybe a little) but its just hard to understand why players constantly raise pre flop time after time, on the occasions i do have a decent hand, i am getting asked for vast amount of chips just to see flops!!!

    so what tactic can i use against kamikaze players??
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  • emilyeggemilyegg Member Posts: 3,408
    edited March 2010
    Depends what level you are at in regard to stakes/bankroll.

    The 3 step method on Small stake mtt/stt games seem to be popular R C S

    Step 1...Close Eyes
    Step 2...Click Mouse
    Step 3...Toast your Success.

    In all seriousness though, if you are just looking to build your bankroll (or in my case, not say au revoir to it so quickly) then DYM games are a good bet.
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  • tikay1tikay1 Member Posts: 741
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    hi guys, im not moaning (well maybe a little) but its just hard to understand why players constantly raise pre flop time after time, on the occasions i do have a decent hand, i am getting asked for vast amount of chips just to see flops!!! so what tactic can i use against kamikaze players??
    Posted by R__C__S
    The very best players raise a LOT pre-flop - again & again. There's nothing wrong with that. Raising is GOOD, it's CALLING time after time that is bad.

    Wait your time, find the right spots, then RE-RAISE them. NEVER Call them.

    The Rule of thumb is that good players Raise (with ANYTHING), bad players call.
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  • AIRWALKERAIRWALKER Member Posts: 680
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players : The very best players raise a LOT pre-flop - again & again. There's nothing wrong with that. Raising is GOOD, it's CALLING time after time that is bad. Wait your time, find the right spots, then RE-RAISE them. NEVER Call them. The Rule of thumb is that good players Raise (with ANYTHING), bad players call.
    Posted by tikay1
    Why should you never call Tikay.
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  • tikay1tikay1 Member Posts: 741
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players : Why should you never call Tikay.
    Posted by AIRWALKER
    Why call? If you think your hand is good, raise. If you don't think it's good, pass. Smoothing is the easy option. There are certain exceptions, in specific circumstances, but the default is to RAISE or PASS. Calling is usually a bad thing.

    By raising, we now have TWO ways to win. And our AK v, say, 9-9 is 75%-25%, NOT 50%-50%, if we get Villain to pass 50% of the time!

    Specifically calling to trap, or float, or stop-&-go, is different, I'm talking "general" here.

    The Raiser pressurises OTHER players. Callers pressurise THEMSELVES. They HOPE to hit, the Raiser seizes the initiative, he does not need to hit - he's taking most pots unopposed.
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  • AIRWALKERAIRWALKER Member Posts: 680
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players : Why call? If you think your hand is good, raise. If you don't think it's good, pass. Smoothing is the easy option. There are certain exceptions, in specific circumstances, but the default is to RAISE or PASS. Calling is usually a bad thing. By raising, we now have TWO ways to win. And our AK v, say, 9-9 is 75%-25%, NOT 50%-50%, if we get Villain to pass 50% of the time! Specifically calling to trap, or float, or stop-&-go, is different, I'm talking "general" here. The Raiser pressurises OTHER players. Callers pressurise THEMSELVES. They HOPE to hit, the Raiser seizes the initiative, he does not need to hit - he's taking most pots unopposed.

    Posted by tikay1
    Makes sense, thanks a lot. I call if they bet what i was going to bet in the first place and then wait for the flop most of the time. I will re raise a lot more now.
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  • R__C__SR__C__S Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2010
    thanks for the advice Tikay
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  • -Typhoon--Typhoon- Member Posts: 288
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players : Why call? If you think your hand is good, raise. If you don't think it's good, pass. Smoothing is the easy option. There are certain exceptions, in specific circumstances, but the default is to RAISE or PASS. Calling is usually a bad thing. By raising, we now have TWO ways to win. And our AK v, say, 9-9 is 75%-25%, NOT 50%-50%, if we get Villain to pass 50% of the time! Specifically calling to trap, or float, or stop-&-go, is different, I'm talking "general" here. The Raiser pressurises OTHER players. Callers pressurise THEMSELVES. They HOPE to hit, the Raiser seizes the initiative, he does not need to hit - he's taking most pots unopposed.
    Posted by tikay1
    Excelent advise as usuall Tikay, something which i'm learning to adjust to and use more often. Love the quote "The Raiser pressurises OTHER players. Callers pressurise THEMSELVES"

    Keep up the good work ;)
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  • R__C__SR__C__S Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2010
    finished with poker,

    had ace pair, raised 600, flop was called, hit 3 aces, went all in

    got beat by a straight
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2010
    unlucky, chin up though!
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  • AIRWALKERAIRWALKER Member Posts: 680
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: bad luck or just crazy players:
    finished with poker, had ace pair, raised 600, flop was called, hit 3 aces, went all in got beat by a straight
    Posted by R__C__S
    Never going to drink again hic, burp, pardon me lol.
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  • Spartan3Spartan3 Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2010
    Maybe its the drink causing yr dramtic reaction to str8 beating trips but hey, I'm a 6mnth newby & 1 thing i've learnt not to take any one hand TOO seriously.  See sooooo many sob stories on here but it (s..t) always happens sometimes.  I was reading tikay's advice here when playing a DYM  so raised more than normally, landed str8 and beaten by quad 8's all in!! (but I know his advice is so right in the long run & something I'm missing from my game).  So will still go for it & learn from it.

    Oh & why the **** fold a hand that excites you AFTERWARDS, re-raise man! with a constant raiser yr just waiting for a hand to get excited about.  Then you'll find out what the poker gods have in store !!! 

    Thanks for post, good learning / reminders for me too
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