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Is he right ?

TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,713
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I'm at the final table of a small tourney at one of my local casinos theres 7 players left with the top 5 getting paid theres a total of 650,000 chips in play and I'm chip leader with 215,000. blinds are 1000 / 2000 with a 200 ante. After the flop player in seat 2 shoves for 35,000 and player in seat 6 (95,000) snap calls. I have an open ended draw with 4 to the flush. I think for about 3 minutes and push all in. Player in 6 calls and tables 2 pair seat 2 has 1 pair and after a brick turn I river my flush and go on to win the whole thing. The player in seat 6 absolutely ripped me a new one saying that the play was never +EV and that I must have been smoking weed at the break. I argued that if I won I was massive stack but even if I lost I would still have average chips.
Outcome aside was this a bad play. Sorry to constantly pick your brains but I'm trying to really develop my live play and you guys always seem to have something to contribute.

Yours in poker,

Mark.
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  • Summers119Summers119 Member Posts: 193
    Seems like a clear shove to me pal the other guy must have been the one smoking the weed.

    An open ended straight draw and a flush draw where you cover the other two stacks considerably is definitely +ev. I haven't done the maths but i am pretty sure you are basically flipping with the 2 pair and there is all the money that is already in the middle.
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    The easiest shove in the world.

    No need to think for 3 minutes about it. Fair enough not making a snap judgement, but to spend 3 minutes on a decision like this might understandably cheese off a few people in a small local comp.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    You seem to take to heart what people in a low stakes live MTT say. Take any comments with a pinch of salt, I doubt they are poker wizards and most likely are just annoyed because they lost.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 170,995
    ^^^^^

    That would be the most important lesson to take from that.

    He chuntered because he lost. Simple as.
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  • FeelGroggyFeelGroggy Member Posts: 842
    The only was it's even close is if your open ender and 4 to the flush is say 8 high on a 3flush flop. If its on a 2 flush flop then It's a very easy gamble, and he's just bitter he lost.
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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,713
    Thanks guys, as ever you help me to find a better understanding of myself and my game. FWIW i won the same small comp again last night after making the final table as short stack. After taking a little off 1st and 2nd for the bubble £320 wasnt bad for an evenings work. Onwards and upwards.

    Yours in Poker

    Mark.
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