Hu Table question

Itsover4u

Can I ask how a player is sat waiting at 4 hu tables all at 50nl .... all NL tables (not nl / pl mix)?

Me and every other player can only wait at 4? (that i am aware of)

MattBates

Itsover4u said:

Can I ask how a player is sat waiting at 4 hu tables all at 50nl .... all NL tables (not nl / pl mix)?

Me and every other player can only wait at 4? (that i am aware of)

You said 4 in both examples?

K0BAYASHl

Itsover4u said:

Can I ask how a player is sat waiting at 4 hu tables all at 50nl .... all NL tables (not nl / pl mix)?

Me and every other player can only wait at 4? (that i am aware of)

Should say 2

Tikay10

Hi Danny,

I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that one, sorry.

CrazyBen23

Can you get someone to look into this please @Tikay10

A certain someone is sitting at SEVEN 0.25/0.50 tables lol. Must of found a glitch or something in the software

Tikay10

Hi @CrazyBen23

As far as I can see, some of the tables were "HU Deep" tables, some were No Limit & others were Pot Limit. They are allowed to sit at different formats, i.e., 2 x 25p-50p NL, & 2 x 25p-50p PL.

Incidentally, not sure why the "Deep" tables were there - these have now been removed.

Itsover4u

Just to clarify the guy was only at nl standard tables when I looked. Not sure how he could do it but he did. In bens example only one pl table ever spawns so he would still be sitting at least 4 regular tables.

Really unfair lobby advantage.... I chose not to play hu that day and played plo instead which is fine but I know it may kick off with other regs

Tikay10

Itsover4u said:

Just to clarify the guy was only at nl standard tables when I looked. Not sure how he could do it but he did. In bens example only one pl table ever spawns so he would still be sitting at least 4 regular tables.

Really unfair lobby advantage.... I chose not to play hu that day and played plo instead which is fine but I know it may kick off with other regs

2 of them were "Deep HU" Tables, which have now been removed.

I have raised it with the office, & tested it myself, as far as I can see, everything is working as it should.

If you see further examples, please contact CC or let me know, & I'll ask the office to investigate it further.

Itsover4u

Tikay10 said:

Itsover4u said:

Just to clarify the guy was only at nl standard tables when I looked. Not sure how he could do it but he did. In bens example only one pl table ever spawns so he would still be sitting at least 4 regular tables.

Really unfair lobby advantage.... I chose not to play hu that day and played plo instead which is fine but I know it may kick off with other regs

2 of them were "Deep HU" Tables, which have now been removed.

I have raised it with the office, & tested it myself, as far as I can see, everything is working as it should.

If you see further examples, please contact CC or let me know, & I'll ask the office to investigate it further.

Hi Tikay yes I ubderstand about the deep hi how that would allow extra tables... but still... 7 tables in total

2 x deep hu tables

1 x pl table as only one spawns

That means 4 regular heads up tables which is not possible for any other person on the site

Itsover4u

Not a huge issue but just making aware there is a bug or a loophole

Tikay10

Itsover4u said:

Not a huge issue but just making aware there is a bug or a loophole

Yes, I understand, & I've made the Office aware of the potential problem.

Let's keep an eye on it.

CrazyBen23

He/she is sitting at 6 atm

Tikay10

CrazyBen23 said:

He/she is sitting at 6 atm

Noted.

Bit perplexed by that, so have sent a report Upstairs again.

TheMadMonk

Why is there a rule that a player can only sit at 2 hu tables at once ?
I dont get it.

K0BAYASHl

TheMadMonk said:

Why is there a rule that a player can only sit at 2 hu tables at once ?
I dont get it.

Because it clogs up the lobby, also it makes people play each other if they want to sit at a Hu table.

F_Ivanovic

As much as I used to love HU, the way it works in cash games on sky at least is just a joke. There's currently 60 HU tables open across all stakes with no-one playing each other - how does that entice anyone to join a table? And even if they do, it's just completely random luck of the draw which player gets to benefit from a rec sitting.

There needs to be some way to force regs to battle it out to contest the lobby - new tables should not be spawning when there are already 8 people in that stake at the lobby that aren't playing anyone.

F_Ivanovic

K0BAYASHl said:

TheMadMonk said:

Why is there a rule that a player can only sit at 2 hu tables at once ?
I dont get it.

Because it clogs up the lobby, also it makes people play each other if they want to sit at a Hu table.

As someone that plays HU, how long are you sat waiting around with 8 tables open waiting for some action? I do kind of admire patience like that even though I hate the system.

Duesenberg

F_Ivanovic said:

As much as I used to love HU, the way it works in cash games on sky at least is just a joke. There's currently 60 HU tables open across all stakes with no-one playing each other - how does that entice anyone to join a table? And even if they do, it's just completely random luck of the draw which player gets to benefit from a rec sitting.

There needs to be some way to force regs to battle it out to contest the lobby - new tables should not be spawning when there are already 8 people in that stake at the lobby that aren't playing anyone.

I do agree with you here @F_Ivanovic. However, one thing that compounds this problem is that HU games on Sky have possibly the highest level of rake going compared to other sites/networks. For example, if you were playing 20nl HU on Sky, the rake per pot is capped at a maximum of £1 - 5bb's. By comparison, 20nl HU on another network (which I won't name here) caps the rake at $0.20, or just 1bb. Under Sky's rake structure (and due to the very nature of HU cash), one of the two players in a HU game needs to have a hugely significant edge in order for the game to not be a losing proposition for both the players involved. I don't play an awful lot of HU but I'd love to do some reg battling in lower stakes games if the rake structure was altered in such a way as to make it feasible. As it stands, extreme bumhunting is the only viable option for thinking players who want to play HU games in a way where they are (potentially at least) +EV.

I really think this is something that Sky should look into. Although they would be collecting far less rake per hand through a significant reduction, I believe they'd end up collecting more rake in total given the greater number of games that would then run.

Itsover4u

@Tikay10 this problem is still happening... player sitting at 4+tables at 50nl meaning the tables are not spawning.

No regs will play so it is impossible for me to now get a game at these stakes.

Any chance you could get the relevant person to look at this?

Thanks

Danny

EDIT** I sat at two tables long enough to force him to leave. If you need the player alias PM me

JJBinks

Duesenberg said:

F_Ivanovic said:

As much as I used to love HU, the way it works in cash games on sky at least is just a joke. There's currently 60 HU tables open across all stakes with no-one playing each other - how does that entice anyone to join a table? And even if they do, it's just completely random luck of the draw which player gets to benefit from a rec sitting.

There needs to be some way to force regs to battle it out to contest the lobby - new tables should not be spawning when there are already 8 people in that stake at the lobby that aren't playing anyone.

I do agree with you here @F_Ivanovic. However, one thing that compounds this problem is that HU games on Sky have possibly the highest level of rake going compared to other sites/networks. For example, if you were playing 20nl HU on Sky, the rake per pot is capped at a maximum of £1 - 5bb's. By comparison, 20nl HU on another network (which I won't name here) caps the rake at $0.20, or just 1bb. Under Sky's rake structure (and due to the very nature of HU cash), one of the two players in a HU game needs to have a hugely significant edge in order for the game to not be a losing proposition for both the players involved. I don't play an awful lot of HU but I'd love to do some reg battling in lower stakes games if the rake structure was altered in such a way as to make it feasible. As it stands, extreme bumhunting is the only viable option for thinking players who want to play HU games in a way where they are (potentially at least) +EV.

I really think this is something that Sky should look into. Although they would be collecting far less rake per hand through a significant reduction, I believe they'd end up collecting more rake in total given the greater number of games that would then run.

I agree with what you are saying, I think it forces you to play a more aggressive style with bigger sizing to compensate for the rake, so less hands go post flop, I might be wrong I don’t play to much HU, @KOBAYASHI is the man to ask he is the nuts HU.

Duesenberg

JJBinks said:

Duesenberg said:

F_Ivanovic said:

As much as I used to love HU, the way it works in cash games on sky at least is just a joke. There's currently 60 HU tables open across all stakes with no-one playing each other - how does that entice anyone to join a table? And even if they do, it's just completely random luck of the draw which player gets to benefit from a rec sitting.

There needs to be some way to force regs to battle it out to contest the lobby - new tables should not be spawning when there are already 8 people in that stake at the lobby that aren't playing anyone.

I do agree with you here @F_Ivanovic. However, one thing that compounds this problem is that HU games on Sky have possibly the highest level of rake going compared to other sites/networks. For example, if you were playing 20nl HU on Sky, the rake per pot is capped at a maximum of £1 - 5bb's. By comparison, 20nl HU on another network (which I won't name here) caps the rake at $0.20, or just 1bb. Under Sky's rake structure (and due to the very nature of HU cash), one of the two players in a HU game needs to have a hugely significant edge in order for the game to not be a losing proposition for both the players involved. I don't play an awful lot of HU but I'd love to do some reg battling in lower stakes games if the rake structure was altered in such a way as to make it feasible. As it stands, extreme bumhunting is the only viable option for thinking players who want to play HU games in a way where they are (potentially at least) +EV.

I really think this is something that Sky should look into. Although they would be collecting far less rake per hand through a significant reduction, I believe they'd end up collecting more rake in total given the greater number of games that would then run.

I agree with what you are saying, I think it forces you to play a more aggressive style with bigger sizing to compensate for the rake, so less hands go post flop, I might be wrong I don’t play to much HU, @KOBAYASHI is the man to ask he is nuts HU.

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