When the UK team still don't win, will you be calling for a European football team just so we can win something?
The Ryder Cup analogy is exactly the same argument.
When the UK and Ireland played against the USA it was a one sided, and unfair competition that the USA dominated.
When it became the USA against Europe the competition became fairer as the results have shown, and our side gets to win sometimes.
There is no point in putting forward silly pointless arguments. I was merely asking whether or not, taking our national pride into account, we should continue to compete in football tournaments as separate nations, and continue to consistently get abysmal results, or compete as the UK, and as we already compete in some sports as the UK including in football at the Olympics, then how could it possibly not make sense.
You ridiculed me when I said this and then you say the same thing.
The only circumstance where I would agree with this sentiment, is one where you have watched the team you support losing narrowly to a better side, and have played their hearts out, and fought until the end.
Under normal circumstances, anyone that plays professional sport that is not completely focused on winning should not be playing that sport.
Any team playing professional sport that are not absolutely determined to win, should not leave the dressing room.
There would on occasion be a benefit from players that play together at club level week in and week out playing in the same national side. For instance you could have had Gordon Strachan, Bryan Robson, and Mark Hughes in the team, when they all played for Man Utd.
When the UK team still don't win, will you be calling for a European football team just so we can win something?
The Ryder Cup analogy is exactly the same argument.
When the UK and Ireland played against the USA it was a one sided, and unfair competition that the USA dominated.
When it became the USA against Europe the competition became fairer as the results have shown, and our side gets to win sometimes.
There is no point in putting forward silly pointless arguments. I was merely asking whether or not, taking our national pride into account, we should continue to compete in football tournaments as separate nations, and continue to consistently get abysmal results, or compete as the UK, and as we already compete in some sports as the UK including in football at the Olympics, then how could it possibly not make sense.
you,re talking about football tho ,golf,cricket,athletics, its different to football , footballs a different animal its a religion . a UK football team won,t happen as much as the purists would like it
Whether football is a sport or a religion is irrelevant, its the results that count. Just on qualifying,
Wales one World Cup and one European. Northern Ireland three World Cups and one European. Scotland eight World Cups, and two Europeans.
So Scotland have the by far the best record of the smaller nations, yet they have not progressed past the first round in any competition, and their last qualification was 20 years ago.
England can boast one home soil victory in the World Cup, two semi finals, and failed to qualify 3 times, since 1950. At the Europeans they have got one real semi final, and failed to qualify 5 times since 1964.
I suppose the timing of this debate is not good, as England just got to a World Cup semi, and both Wales, and Northern Irelands qualification for their one and only European Championship were both at the most recent one.
If we accept that football is a religion, then maybe its just a case of UK fans sinning too much, or just not praying enough. Either way, someone needs to sort it out.
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When the UK and Ireland played against the USA it was a one sided, and unfair competition that the USA dominated.
When it became the USA against Europe the competition became fairer as the results have shown, and our side gets to win sometimes.
There is no point in putting forward silly pointless arguments.
I was merely asking whether or not, taking our national pride into account, we should continue to compete in football tournaments as separate nations, and continue to consistently get abysmal results, or compete as the UK, and as we already compete in some sports as the UK including in football at the Olympics, then how could it possibly not make sense.
Under normal circumstances, anyone that plays professional sport that is not completely focused on winning should not be playing that sport.
Any team playing professional sport that are not absolutely determined to win, should not leave the dressing room.
Probably less play cricket, yet the England team pick from all the home nations.
For instance you could have had Gordon Strachan, Bryan Robson, and Mark Hughes in the team, when they all played for Man Utd.
Just on qualifying,
Wales one World Cup and one European.
Northern Ireland three World Cups and one European.
Scotland eight World Cups, and two Europeans.
So Scotland have the by far the best record of the smaller nations, yet they have not progressed past the first round in any competition, and their last qualification was 20 years ago.
England can boast one home soil victory in the World Cup, two semi finals, and failed to qualify 3 times, since 1950. At the Europeans they have got one real semi final, and failed to qualify 5 times since 1964.
I suppose the timing of this debate is not good, as England just got to a World Cup semi, and both Wales, and Northern Irelands qualification for their one and only European Championship were both at the most recent one.
If we accept that football is a religion, then maybe its just a case of UK fans sinning too much, or just not praying enough. Either way, someone needs to sort it out.