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Interesting spot in DYM

Mayhem357Mayhem357 Member Posts: 91
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Thoughts here guys?
Mayhem357 Small blind 25.00 25.00 1530.00
gunman71 Big blind 50.00 75.00 2715.00
Your hole cards
9
9
chadw33 Fold
Denjays1 Raise 100.00 175.00 1560.00
scottyjohn Fold
johnw600 Fold
Mayhem357 Call 75.00 250.00 1455.00
gunman71 Call 50.00 300.00 2665.00
Flop
5
9
8
Mayhem357 Check
gunman71 Check
Denjays1 Bet 200.00 500.00 1360.00
Mayhem357 Raise 550.00 1050.00 905.00
gunman71 Raise 1325.00 2375.00 1340.00
Denjays1 All-in 1360.00 3735.00 0.00
Mayhem357 All-in 905.00 4640.00 0.00


Opener I feel has a fairly wide opening range here including higher pairs and decent aces, given blinds and my stack size re-raising pre-flop isn't great unless I go big. I check, opener continues which is fairly standard but here I decide to 3 bet as I feel I can stack over pairs and smaller sets. To my surprise BB now jams on me. I don't have any real notes but given action I have to assume his range is 6-7, 8-8, 5-5 heavy with a few random open ended straight draws , maybe 8-9 being over valued or over pairs thrown in, opener then calls the shove which to me tells me he has most likely an over pair or potentially 5-5 (I don't see him betting 200 with 8-8 on this flop.

If my ranges are right I'm 65% favourite here, original opener is likely in terrible shape with around 6% equity and BB is around 30%. Given blind level though I am wondering whether I should stack off here, I think almost certainly as I only have 1000 behind and pot odds are great needing only 25% equity.

Anyone see this differently? If it helps I'm only winning reg at the table so have big edge even with 1000 chips behind at this stage.
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  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    Same as you I'd go with this hand versus 2 unknowns. It is what it is if one them rocks up with the flopped straight(which is what happened, right?😢)
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  • Mayhem357Mayhem357 Member Posts: 91
    Yeah I try not to be too results orientated but opener held K-K and BB had 6-7 for the straight. I felt I played the hand correctly but it's a spot where the math means I need to call but the play of my opponents screams this is a cooler.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Is only 1 hand we lose to and we still have outs v that hand and against worse sets we have opponent crushed. We are good against draws and crush overplayed 2pair type hands. DYMs are a format where we can make big laydowns but folding here would be overkill.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,000

    When I'm in this spot I have the awful habit of thinking "what hands have me beat here?", & of course 6-7 would spring to mind immediately.

    He does not have to have it though, & even if he has, we still have plenty of outs.

    I think we had to go with it. Whether it was proven to be right or wrong is, as you note, irrelevant - the correct play was to go with it. (IMO)

    If the same spot came up 1,000 times, I think we'd come out ahead if we called every time, as he does not always have the 6-7.

    I'm glad you posted this, please post more as & when they crop up.

    I got in a weird spot in a Live Tourney recently (SPT Grand Final), & if I'm brave enough, I'll post that later today. One of those "I know I'm behind but......" spots.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Tikay10 said:


    When I'm in this spot I have the awful habit of thinking "what hands have me beat here?", & of course 6-7 would spring to mind immediately.

    He does not have to have it though, & even if he has, we still have plenty of outs.

    I think we had to go with it. Whether it was proven to be right or wrong is, as you note, irrelevant - the correct play was to go with it. (IMO)

    If the same spot came up 1,000 times, I think we'd come out ahead if we called every time, as he does not always have the 6-7.

    I'm glad you posted this, please post more as & when they crop up.

    I got in a weird spot in a Live Tourney recently (SPT Grand Final), & if I'm brave enough, I'll post that later today. One of those "I know I'm behind but......" spots.

    @Tikay10 Post it and I will try and get some people to post some views. Lets make the poker clinic great again!
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  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    edited December 2018
    Never, ever folding here especially with top set. Pot odds and opponent ranges are in your favour big time.

    On the flop I prefer a check-raise all-in compared to a small check-raise for 3 main reasons:-

    1. Big overpairs that call a small check-raise will call an all-in. I guess there maybe hands they have that would call a small check-raise but not a shove however this point is outweighed by the next two points.....

    2. A check-raise shove looks weaker than a small check-raise. The check-raise screams "monster". Opponent could put you on pair plus draw combos or smaller overpairs with a shove.

    3. You could get a call on the flop and a see a 6, 7 or a T pop off on the turn and kill any further chips going in.


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