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Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?

bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
edited March 2010 in Poker Chat
It was my first ever primo. I was sitting roughly av. stacked, about half way through.

Raised 4x min with AK.

All-in came in against me with more chips against me.

Was I a wimp for folding?

Pretty sure I had two TP players at my table too. Gliterbabe defo and I think sharksbite is one.
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  • GliterBabeGliterBabe Member Posts: 361
    edited March 2010
    Don't think I'm ever folding here, specially in a two way pot. If you have 2 callers then yes it's a fold..and Yes me and Sharky were 2 Total players.

    GB
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  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited March 2010
    If you fold that 1 vs 1 then i think you seriously need to look at your game.Soz but true.dav
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  • labrat64labrat64 Member Posts: 987
    edited March 2010
    Don't think i could fold against 1 player, are you playing above your roll and  therefore scared to lose the buy in?
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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    If you fold that 1 vs 1 then i think you seriously need to look at your game.Soz but true.dav
    Posted by dav1964
    this is an opinion and no where near the truth!

    is there really any need for this dav? i know a stack of players who would fold AK in a BIG MTT, its not that bad a move, depends what table you are on and weather you are willing to race so early on in a big tournament, not that bad a fold if you feel they have big hand
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2010
    How many big blinds did you have?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited March 2010
    Bfish go on msn - im on rush
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  • torryboytorryboy Member Posts: 459
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    If you fold that 1 vs 1 then i think you seriously need to look at your game.Soz but true.dav
    Posted by dav1964
    I agree dav, I think the bankroll may influencing this decision.

    PS you always get one lol
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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    torryboy, just to let you know i have now clicked "ignore torryboy"

    so keep the snide remarks to your sen in the future cos i wont able to see them!!

    over and out!!!!!!!
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited March 2010
    had it been a £5 buy in , you wouldnt have thought twice
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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    buy in has nothing to do with it, AK is sooo over rated, against 22 you have to hit so if he dont wanna race with it then he dont have to no matter what the buy in! imo

    folding kings and queens and AK is not a bad move, it takes a really good player to fold big hands like this, give the guy a break
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    buy in has nothing to do with it, AK is sooo over rated, against 22 you have to hit so if he dont wanna race with it then he dont have to no matter what the buy in! imo folding kings and queens and AK is not a bad move, it takes a really good player to fold big hands like this, give the guy a break
    Posted by webby234
    If you have enough BBs then folding AK is fine imo because you dont want to be in a 50 50... folding QQ i think only if the action allows you an opportunity to get away otherwise dont be afraid to get it all in with them... KK... never fold... ever, pre.
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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZRk9QcmE_I
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  • torryboytorryboy Member Posts: 459
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    torryboy, just to let you know i have now clicked "ignore torryboy" so keep the snide remarks to your sen in the future cos i wont able to see them!! over and out!!!!!!!
    Posted by webby234
    At last
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  • big_mick12big_mick12 Member Posts: 210
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp? : If you have enough BBs then folding AK is fine imo because you dont want to be in a 50 50... folding QQ i think only if the action allows you an opportunity to get away otherwise dont be afraid to get it all in with them... KK... never fold... ever, pre.
    Posted by BlackFish3
    Agreed, it must always be player dependant  and stack dependant with AK looks massive against the loose maniac whos shoved the last 5 hands. But against a nit AK shrinks. If you have got chips and can afford to make the call, do it.l If your got 10bb you gotta get your money in.

    Also when your shoving with AK you've got alot of fold equity, calling isnt always the best thing to do with it.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2010
    dont be results orientated webby... in this instance he was right... its -EV to fold KK though... and this was a live poker clip... could of picked up a read?
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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    just saying blackfish that now and again, although not very often at all, folding kk is a possibility

    ps: i have never folded KK yet
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    If you fold that 1 vs 1 then i think you seriously need to look at your game.Soz but true.dav
    Posted by dav1964
    You're right.

    My head is suitably hung. Only been playing 3 weeks though. I'll learn.

    Brillaint site this, though.
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  • TORTUS007TORTUS007 Member Posts: 456
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    just saying blackfish that now and again, although not very often at all, folding kk is a possibility ps: i have never folded KK yet
    Posted by webby234
    I've never folded  Q Q
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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp?:
    In Response to Re: Folded pocket AK pre-flop. Am I a wimp? : You're right. My head is suitably hung. Only been playing 3 weeks though. I'll learn. Brillaint site this, though.
    Posted by bandini
    bandini hes not right

    i guarantee you mate 100% he is not right, folding AK in a BIG MTT is not a big deal, ealry on if some comes over the top of your raise with a big all in then there is nothing bad about folding, calling could be classed as a good move and so could folding, its one of those situations that i wouldnt criticise any majorly, although i dont think i could put my tournament on the line with just AK at the start of a big MTT
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  • murray69murray69 Member Posts: 436
    edited March 2010
    whayyyy forum fight,,, love itttttt!

    i think folding ak is fine, depending on how many Bb's you have left, otherwise you can easily just wait for a better situation,

    Murray's opinion over and out :)
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