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dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
It's like poker players are actually detached from the rest of society . look at the moaning and the complete bollo cks thats typed across a number of a different venues .
There's a ever developing world , with a multitude of different obstacles to overcome , but poker players moan about not winning enough because of the rake . Lets be clear here , we are talking about winning players ...it beggars belief really .
If I regularly done my shopping in sainsburys , and I wasnt happy about their prices I would go elsewhere ...why ? because lifes too short to moan about something that you are quite happy to continue doing .
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  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    check out the fifa19 forums
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited March 2019
    :D
    Itsover4u said:

    check out the fifa19 forums

    No thanks , I still have a life :D
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited March 2019
    The dicks seem to be all out in force today ...lets see ..122 k in profit ...how many years actually working for a living in Yorkshire , would it take you to clear that, whilst doing something you enjoy ?
    People need to get a grip , be grateful for what they have and stop finding excuses to moan about trivialities .
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    I mean it seems like your moaning?
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,046
    2009 ............ 2019 some people take 10 years to notice the Sky Forum.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Itsover4u said:

    I mean it seems like your moaning?

    Winning poker players moaning about not making enough profit on games they dont even really play ...its actually too funny for words ..well done for ascribing to the nonsense .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited March 2019
    Would you like to pay less money for something ? ...oooh let me think about that ...well yes , obv . Is it necessarily going to be benficial for everybody in the long term for that to happen ? ...doh , didn't think about that .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    goldon said:

    2009 ............ 2019 some people take 10 years to notice the Sky Forum.

    Some people shouldn't bother :D
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    They are not talking about me dobie. It was you who joined in 2009
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Itsover4u said:

    They are not talking about me dobie. It was you who joined in 2009

    Who cares , who he is on about ? and how is that relevant ?
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538

    Itsover4u said:

    I mean it seems like your moaning?

    Winning poker players moaning about not making enough profit on games they dont even really play ...its actually too funny for words ..well done for ascribing to the nonsense .

    Winning poker players who go out of there way to help other players become winning players? How exactly would it help a business owned by stars who charge less than half the rake on the main site? I’m intigued. I mean I run my own business but would love to know your take
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Itsover4u said:

    Itsover4u said:

    I mean it seems like your moaning?

    Winning poker players moaning about not making enough profit on games they dont even really play ...its actually too funny for words ..well done for ascribing to the nonsense .

    Winning poker players who go out of their way to help other players become winning players? How exactly would it help a business owned by stars who charge less than half the rake on the main site? I’m intrigued. I mean I run my own business but would love to know your take
    Fixed your post , but still have no idea , what it is you are actually asking ? Not sure how running your own business is related to this , but I have ran several of my own businesses over the years , a couple on the high street , so if that was to provide some credibility to a question no one can understand , then well done .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Itsover4u said:

    Itsover4u said:

    I mean it seems like your moaning?

    Winning poker players moaning about not making enough profit on games they dont even really play ...its actually too funny for words ..well done for ascribing to the nonsense .

    Winning poker players who go out of there way to help other players become winning players? How exactly would it help a business owned by stars who charge less than half the rake on the main site? I’m intigued. I mean I run my own business but would love to know your take
    If you are also trying to put forward the suggestion that he is ultimately trying to help people by raising the issue of the rake, that's laughable in itself .
    He said quite clearly in his post in answer to my question that he felt cheated by the rake .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Reducing the rake = more pros , which in turn mean more casual rec players are going to get their bankrolls busted quicker ( some might view the site as being full of pros ,too hard to make any money and don't reload/go elsewhere) .
    More pros on the site looking for an edge , will make nitty table selection predominant, and as a result , tables ( sng's) , will run less frequently , meaning less rake is gathered by sky which will no doubt have a knock on effect with promotions.
    As far as rewards payments , well people will have to play more volume just to get the same level of rewards payments they are currently receiving . Any argument , in relation to the aforementioned , that suggests this will be negated by the tables being easier to beat fail to take into account that the tables will invariably be tougher to beat , because there will be more pros playing, plus tables won't fill as quickly.
    A lot of casual recs are well aware of rake structures as they play on other sites as well or have done, but still continue to play here alongside regs .
    I fail to see how lowering the rake on here , would be beneficial to the poker " economy "


  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,046
    The Umbrella will open soon. "Weather" or not Rake falls. The Winds of loose change are coming. Hic!
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    There are some logical flaws in what you are saying. The issue now is the games/edges in some games are so low due to the high rake that nitty table selection occurs/games don't run. In HU SNG for example games run very infrequently and players can only really win if opponents are of a bad standard and you don't get hardly any reg v reg action. It is regs open sitting for hours waiting for a spot to come along.
    With DYMs players at the moment have to table select well given the rake levels.
    Rake is one factor that players will use to decide where to play. You saying lower rake = more pros is simplifying things massively and isn't necessarily going to be the case.

    One of the good things about sky is that sky management listen to feedback from players when it is well thought. The thread was a well thought out one and given that they understand poker and the poker ecology they always look at threads like that one and give it due care and consideration. Given what's going on with the stars takeover I doubt anything will happen but that doesn't mean customers shouldn't interact with sky management on the forum.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited March 2019
    MattBates said:

    There are some logical flaws in what you are saying. The issue now is the games/edges in some games are so low due to the high rake that nitty table selection occurs/games don't run. In HU SNG for example games run very infrequently and players can only really win if opponents are of a bad standard and you don't get hardly any reg v reg action. It is regs open sitting for hours waiting for a spot to come along.
    With DYMs players at the moment have to table select well given the rake levels.
    Rake is one factor that players will use to decide where to play. You saying lower rake = more pros is simplifying things massively and isn't necessarily going to be the case.

    One of the good things about sky is that sky management listen to feedback from players when it is well thought. The thread was a well thought out one and given that they understand poker and the poker ecology they always look at threads like that one and give it due care and consideration. Given what's going on with the stars takeover I doubt anything will happen but that doesn't mean customers shouldn't interact with sky management on the forum.

    Well tdym tables appear to play regularly , from what I've seen , admittingly I tend not to look at the higher stake ones i.e above £11 . No idea about HUSNG, but what he was talking about were the tdyms, wasn't it ? I thought the lack of comment on the thread from the guys that play these in volume , day after day was pretty telling ...and at the end of the day , if the games weren't beateable because of the rake , ( and factoring in the rewards system) they just wouldn't run .
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,458

    Itsover4u said:

    Itsover4u said:

    I mean it seems like your moaning?

    Winning poker players moaning about not making enough profit on games they dont even really play ...its actually too funny for words ..well done for ascribing to the nonsense .

    Winning poker players who go out of their way to help other players become winning players? How exactly would it help a business owned by stars who charge less than half the rake on the main site? I’m intrigued. I mean I run my own business but would love to know your take
    Fixed your post , but still have no idea , what it is you are actually asking ? Not sure how running your own business is related to this , but I have ran several of my own businesses over the years , a couple on the high street , so if that was to provide some credibility to a question no one can understand , then well done .
    A little patronising/condescending/rude (delete as appropriate) to ‘Fix’ there poast...

    Too pointts-

    It will diminish your credibility when you post controversial topics to that to people
    People will start to think you are actually related to Goldon

    You can decide which is worse

    Enjoy your games and carry on posting inane jokes and interesting words’ threads or similar
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