A quick poker puzzle. ( No googling)

mumsie

Can anyone name a situation where the poker equity is exactly 50/50 between 2 people on the flop.

The players don't have the same cards i.e. 72v72 on a A59 board etc

SidV79

23os vs 24os

mumsie

Hi Sid, both opponents have a 2 here.

The hands must not contain same cards and no chance of a tied pit.


Edit
The hands must not contain same cards and no chance of a tied pot.

FMP

SidV79

Ok mumsie but the equity is 50% for those hands even though a tie is the likely outcome. Will have another think...

madprof

36os and 47os

madprof

i know its wrong...thats why i lose at poker...ahem

mumsie

madprof said:

36os and 47os

Where's the flop ?

madprof

mumsie said:

madprof said:

36os and 47os

Where's the flop ?

in my hand...sorry err, was using yours..like sid, i'll have a think..will be a while mind

madprof

sorry..just thinking about this again..surely it will be a bigger hand where there are plenty of outs...for both people needs to be the same no of outs , just can't think what hands/flop tho

craigcu12

to get exactly 50/50 must be extremely hard to do without having the same cards and same number of outs.
The best way to do it is to set up the flop trips and use two low card combos because this will create a flop dynamic that is extremely similar to preflop.

The type I of structure I'd see giving this is 2 unders cards against each other of the flop 666.
54 vs 32 on flop 666 the 54 will be slight favourite because hitting turn will cause 32 to draw dead and if 32 hits the turn 54 has 7 outs to go ahead on river.

What we'd need to do now is fiddle about with the two combos to make it harder for the 5x to go ahead.

I've looked at the various combos on poker stove and here is how they are

54 v 32 53%/47%
53 v 42 51.3/48.6
give 42 a runner runner flush and you will get almost 50/50
53o v 42s 49.8%/50.2% without the straight flush blocker
make the 53 have the straight flush blocker and it's now a 49.94%/50.51%

52ov43o is also extremely close at 50.4%/49.5%

These are on flop 666

madprof

what's poker stove Craig? Is that some form of internet based aid?

Essexphil

You are only ever going to get close with 42 v 53 etc. There is always a chance both cards will hit, so never 50/50 with 2 cards to come..

You have to balance the ahead and the outs, so that the different weights add up to the same.

Don't know the answer though

Wacko90

Suspect something like AhAc>6h5h on a 10h7h4c flop would be pretty much a 50/50 on the flop.

65 would probably would be a small fave but the Ah would take it down to near 50/50.

mumsie

I've achieved 50/50 on my equity calculator app

mumsie

Dozza

100% sure it involves 3 different suits on the flop - you need to scribble better next time

Glenelg

I'll take a punt with something like AK v QJ - with A 10 9 on flop

top pair v flush draw mite get you close to 50/50?

Tikay10

Wacko90 said:

Suspect something like AhAc>6h5h on a 10h7h4c flop would be pretty much a 50/50 on the flop.

65 would probably would be a small fave but the Ah would take it down to near 50/50.

Afternoon @Wacko90 aka last night's Mini-Major Champ.

Dozza

Worked it out - you really should have kept that 10 of spades more hidden

Tikay10

This really is excellent @mumsie, well done & thank you. Just what the Forum needs.

craigcu12

madprof said:

what's poker stove Craig? Is that some form of internet based aid?

poker stove is an equity calculator you can put a specific hand or range of hands and it calculated the equity vs your hand