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Banned From Betting.

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
edited March 2019 in The Rail
Grandad who took £2,000 from Coral is banned from bookies for 'winning too much'



A punter claims his local betting shop has banned him because he was “winning too much”. Grandad Michael Bates, 74, pocketed just over £2,000 in a 12-day streak of 48 successes at a Coral’s branch.
The widower, who told how he landed the modest haul after devising a method to predict horse race winners, said a staffer then asked him to leave and not come back.
He said: “They should not be allowed to do this. It can’t be right. It’s not as if I’m a Las Vegas high roller.”
The dad of three – a regular at the bookies in Colchester, Essex – went on: “I was told I couldn’t come in any more as I was winning too much.



“How can they invite you to bet then tell you to go away if you win? They only want customers who are losers.”
He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four.



The retired roofing firm boss said he left the shop without protest after being ordered out. But later he phoned Coral’s customer service team to query the ban.
In a recorded conversation, listened to by the Sunday People, he was told staff have the right to decline bets, including for the reason that a customer has won too much.



“I was shocked,” he said. “I can’t believe this is right.” He now visits other bookies in the town and his winning streak appears to be continuing for the moment.
Coral’s PR director Simon Clare said he would investigate Mr. Bates’s complaint as it is against the firm’s policy to ban punters for winning. “For a very small minority of shrewd bet that it’s likely to be unprofitable for a bookmaker, we may want their bets phoned to our trading desk for authorisation,” he added.
“Even these are rarely ­refused but we may limit the stake.”
The Gambling Commission said there was no legal “right to bet” and no bookmaker had to accept a bet.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/offbeat/grandad-who-took-£2000-from-coral-is-banned-from-bookies-for-winning-too-much/ar-BBUAKpi?ocid=spartandhp
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
    Bates runs well shocker.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576

    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    He probably lost a tenner at £10 level stakes yesterday
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    HAYSIE said:

    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
    On top of the winners he had 24 places yesterday, maybe he does them each way.

    If so 37 bets to collect.
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,316
    HAYSIE said:

    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
    Yesterday wasn't Cheltenham....... :)

    The bigger the fields the less likely he is to win obviously. Can we stand HAYSIE's bets 50/50 Tikay. About time I had some money out of him :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
    On top of the winners he had 24 places yesterday, maybe he does them each way.

    If so 37 bets to collect.
    That's a little misleading though - if we just look at the 3 cards from Naas, Warwick & Musselburgh, 7 of the 22 races had 6 or less runners, & 1 had 7 runners.

    Back numbers 1 to 4 in 4, 5 or 6 runner races is a little different from doing so in bigger fields, quite apart from the reduced number of places paid.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
    Yesterday wasn't Cheltenham....... :)

    The bigger the fields the less likely he is to win obviously. Can we stand HAYSIE's bets 50/50 Tikay. About time I had some money out of him :)
    Exactly.

    I guess backing numbers 1 to 4 in a 4 runner race is a certain way to win. And lose.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
    Yesterday wasn't Cheltenham....... :)

    The bigger the fields the less likely he is to win obviously. Can we stand HAYSIE's bets 50/50 Tikay. About time I had some money out of him :)
    Don't hold your breath.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MAXALLY said:

    Bates runs well shocker.

    I am going to watch numbers 1 to 4, today.
    Tikay10 said:


    "He said his “system” for picking winners was ­purely based on his research findings that 80 percent of races are won by horses with the numbers one to four."

    If that's his system, I'll happily stand all his bets at Cheltenham this week.

    13 out of 22 yesterday.
    On top of the winners he had 24 places yesterday, maybe he does them each way.

    If so 37 bets to collect.
    That's a little misleading though - if we just look at the 3 cards from Naas, Warwick & Musselburgh, 7 of the 22 races had 6 or less runners, & 1 had 7 runners.

    Back numbers 1 to 4 in 4, 5 or 6 runner races is a little different from doing so in bigger fields, quite apart from the reduced number of places paid.
    Its not my system it is the Grandads.

    I had a quick glance at the results, thinking it was another crackpot scheme.

    I was however surprised at the number of winners, and worked out off the top of my head that he would have just about broken even on the winners.

    I then had a quite glance at the number of places which again surprised me.

    I did notice one 6 runner race, and didn't count the third.

    I haven't worked out the profit or loss on an each way bet on numbers 1 to 4 in each race.

    I am not for one minute advocating this system, but I was surprised by the results on one day.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    How many of you lot have ever been banned from a betting shop for winning money?
  • gpc70gpc70 Member Posts: 1,997
    alas no
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 7,995
    I once got banned from a money shop for whining.
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    number 1-4 or stall 1-4? if its numbers its no different to roulette
  • MasoniReefMasoniReef Member Posts: 168
    HAYSIE said:

    How many of you lot have ever been banned from a betting shop for winning money?

    Me as it happens Corals !
    Ladbrokes in chesterfield too
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    HAYSIE said:

    How many of you lot have ever been banned from a betting shop for winning money?

    Me as it happens Corals !
    Ladbrokes in chesterfield too
    How much did you win?
  • MasoniReefMasoniReef Member Posts: 168
    not sure to be fair but i have a raft of accounts all over restricted
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    not sure to be fair but i have a raft of accounts all over restricted

    Thought so.
  • MasoniReefMasoniReef Member Posts: 168
    Ladbrokes was 1k win before was getting prices halved everytime wanted to punt football then they just said cant take bets anymore not even a big punter by some standards
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