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UKOPS Day 4, who won what? Mikey bags an extraordinary double.

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  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    Is PLO8 the silly one that's same as Omaha hi/lo?
  • Angmar2626Angmar2626 Member Posts: 886
    Well done @MynaFrett - muchly deserved :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,130

    Is PLO8 the silly one that's same as Omaha hi/lo?

    Get outa here.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    I was being serious tbh haha. I've done some googling now and it seems PLO8 literally is hi/lo.

    I've read an article on it and I'll be nitting it up in that tournament tonight.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,130

    I was being serious tbh haha. I've done some googling now and it seems PLO8 literally is hi/lo.

    I've read an article on it and I'll be nitting it up in that tournament tonight.

    Ahh, assumed it was bants, sorry @kapowblamz

    Easy to remember the difference;


    This is PLO8;


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    And this is PLO;



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  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    So if there are not 3 cards 7 or lower on the flop then it's just normal PLO?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,130
    edited April 2019

    So if there are not 3 cards 7 or lower on the flop then it's just normal PLO?

    @kapowblamz

    Almost - three cards that are eight or lower, & Board, not flop. (And this must always be 2 in your hand & 3 on the Board). Remember also that if you have, say, A-2, & a deuce falls on the Board the deuce in your hand is counterfeited.

    If there is a low, the total pot is split exactly in half, with half going to the best high hand, & half to the best low hand(s).

    So when there is no Low, the entire pot goes to the High hand, effectively the PLO hand. No matter what, there is ALWAYS a High, but there is not always a low, so it's bad play to just chase the Lows with A-2 type hands.

    The thing to be careful is a, say, 3 or 4 way pot, when you have A-2 which is good for the nut low, but so do one or two others. The high hand then takes half of the ENTIRE pot, & the low hands then split the low half of the pot twice or even three times. That's called "being quartered" as you are only getting quarter, not half. (Or "sixthed", a sixth, not half). That's a very bad thing, as despite having the nut low, you lose money on the hand.

    If you get Heads Up in a pot, & both of you have the same Low (very common) but Villain also has the high, he gets three quarters & you get a quarter.

    So you want combo draw type hands, ones which can win BOTH pots, which is known as a "scoop", or "scoopio".

    You should never enter a pot in PLO8 unless you have a hand that can scoop. Chasing low-only hands is the quick way to the poor house and the mistake that almost all those new to PLO8 make. Even experienced players make the same mistake. Never chase low only hands.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    Now that is the info! I appreciate that Tikay. I reckon it will make more sense after playing in the tournament later on, tho.




  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    It feels bad folding QQJJ double suited. Correct tho, I presume?
  • dragon1964dragon1964 Member Posts: 3,054

    Nice summary again Tikay.
    Thanks.
    After several weeks off, I may make my comeback in the PLO8 tonight.
    Extra value alert.

    I was right.

    Stupid game.
    Stupid me.
    I retire again.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,130
    edited April 2019

    It feels bad folding QQJJ double suited. Correct tho, I presume?

    @kapowblamz

    Depends on the action in front of you, your position, and your stack size. It's not a hand that a) often improves and b) rarely draws to the nuts.

    The point here though is that most players, most of the time, play strong low hands, so a flop with no low might mean we are good. But if the flop comes 3 or even 2 low cards we can almost never scoop, and if the board finishes with a possible low we rarely scoop, and may well not even be good enough for the high, as the low drawing hands can so easily hit two pair.

    If I can see a flop early doors (blinds still small relative to our stack) cheap enough, I don't mind having a look, but unless we hit a high flop really hard we have to let it go.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    Seems like being really really really nitty is the way, particularly as blinds get bigger.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    edited April 2019
    Chip leader near whole tournament somehow. Essexphil pretty much sent me to the rail shoving KK37 vs my A23x but was a high flop.

    I've come away confused but would def play again. More PLO8 tournaments.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    Tikay10 said:


    UKOPS 26, £5,000 Mega Stack BH, 9pm


    If SkyBet was a market for "who will win at least one UKOPS?" this fella would have been short odds.

    Runner-up MARK277 was having a best ever Sky Poker MTT result, bit unlucky in a way to run into a beast like railtard. Mark has a SS rating of 66, railtard 97. Tough gig that.

    @railtard11 2370000 1 £706.42 + £344.71 Head Prizes 14

    @MARK277 0 2 £421.59 + £98.65 Head Prizes 8

    @SnackJack 0 3 £251.43 + £41.26 Head Prizes 5

    @Dalglish72 0 4 £197.78 + £87.24 Head Prizes 5

    @GREGSTER 0 5 £168.32 + £65.75 Head Prizes 5

    @RazzaDev 0 6 £140.97 + £79.46 Head Prizes 8



    10th was a real blast from the past & an old friend of mine who I've not seen here for ages.


    @Uzi_lover 0 10 £62.33 + £44.37 Head Prizes 5



    Curious as to his Sky Poker history, as he used to feature on Sky Poker TV a lot back in the day, I used the Forum Search function & up popped this thread from 10 long years ago. Quite a few names to jog the memory here, including dear old Acebarry who, sadly, is no longer with us. Wonder what happened to Tennis Bloke, Ivanovic?

    https://community.skypoker.com/discussion/2905/its-tikay-tourney-time/p1



    Does Makaka cash in every UKOPS? It seems like it.


    @Makaka 0 12 £43.40 + £41.72 Head Prizes 5


    Not far behind, this inseparable pair crossed the line almost together, maybe even holding hands. OK, unlikely, but it'd be nice if it ever happened.

    @MAXALLY 0 18 £28.93 + £22.50 Head Prizes 3

    @hhyftrftdr 0 20 £28.93 + £7.50 Head Prizes 1

    To be fair, when we were both struggling Alan did offer his hand for assistance. I rejected it, perhaps naively, and maybe that's why I went out first,

    You live and learn.




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