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goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
Only been here on Sky Poker for ten years .
Gave all my ID information when I joined ; age gender driving license ect, everything is the same only ten years older.
Happy to give it all again but you wont answer any of the three options given to verify details. night in wash my hair.

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  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    Sky Poker lost my details ........ anyone else been asked to supply them or just me.!!
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    Not I.

    I seem to remember that legislation requires them to ask for it again after a set period of time, or something along those lines.
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2019
    It's because there's a regulation change on May 7th - Loads of sites are doing similar.

    It's a total ballache for existing customers, especially people like me who have accounts with 50+ casino/sports/bingo/poker sites and are going to have to do the same thing for most/all of those sites, but at least the industry is finally being forced to do something that's actually going to help protect punters long term.

    For those not up to date with regulation I'll stick some stuff in this post from what I have read/understand of the change.
    3.2 We will therefore make changes to our social responsibility code provisions to give effect
    to these changes. We will require remote operators to verify the age of any customer
    before the customer can:
    • deposit funds into an account
    • access any free-to-play games the licensee may make available, or
    • gamble with the licensee with either their own money or a free bet or bonus.
    Source: https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/PDF/Summary-of-key-changes-to-LCCP-verification-2019.pdf

    The biggest thing for me is that soon, people will be asked for documents on before they can do anything on a site. This even includes things like using a 'no deposit required' free bet, or free play slots, where you're not wagering anything. A lot of the motive behind this is reducing underage gambling and the ability of children to access gambling.

    It makes it much more difficult for underage/problem gamblers to deposit in the first place. Before, some sites would conveniently wait for them to win and try to withdraw before seizing funds and 'giving it to a gambling charity' (read: Tax write-off and site pockets the money indirectly while also trying to take a moral high ground of 'helping' problem gamblers), or they would just completely ignore the fact that the guy who lost 6 figures and self-excluded for life now has a new account.

    This way, it's much harder to get money on the site to begin with for underage/problem gamblers, and it's even easier for regulators to hold sites accountable when they let self-excluded and underage players on the site.
    3.5 The condition also aims to prevent operators from requesting any additional information
    from the customer only at the point that they ask to withdraw funds from their account,
    where that information could reasonably have been requested earlier. The expected
    outcome of the condition is therefore that operators ask for any additional information
    promptly as part of their ongoing monitoring of a customer relationship.
    Source: https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/PDF/Summary-of-key-changes-to-LCCP-verification-2019.pdf

    There used to be loads of nonsense (not specifically on Sky but industry wide) where someone signs up to a site, people would deposit and lose tons. Then when they finally win, they get asked for 'Know Your Customer' documents when they try to withdraw their winnings. Some players understandably felt aggrieved by the idea that KYC only mattered when they finally won. It'll probs cost sites a few quid losing action from the guy who signs up at 2pm on a Saturday afternoon to stick an acca on, then can't get their account verified for the 3pm KOs. But if that's the biggest downside to this change, then it's well worth it.

    Some of the less well known, dodgy sites out there (Karamba in the past, Stakers is another one I've seen on Twitter in the last couple of weeks) have even gone as far as to abuse the KYC system to ask for things like proof of income and notarised documents off the average customer to stall withdrawals.




    Obvs this is a ballache and notarised documents come at an expense to the player, so people just leave small amounts in an account as it's not worth the hassle/expense to withdraw like 20-50 quid. Net result, site closes down the account and steals the player's money. Again, I can see this regulation helping the Gambling Commission, ADRs (IBAS, eCOGRA etc.) be able to crack down on sites trying this.

    ---

    Other things with this regulation:

    - Your name and address need to match official documents (e.g. Passport, Driving License). If you're like me and you've signed up to sites as "Andy" rather than "Andrew", or if you've moved recently and been lazy with updating your address on any dormant accounts, now is the time to get it changed before it can become an issue.

    NB: Paul Fairhead, whose tweets I have linked here, is well worth a follow on Twitter if you're a regular sports better.

    EDIT: Oh cool, Twitter links actually copy the tweets on here. That's pretty neat.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,877
    i,ve been asked on sky bet if my details are correct with a change or later button so i keep pressing the later button cuz nowt has changed
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    Thanks Evil consider yourself un-hung......thought Mods having a pop because I'm to sprightly for my age. cough! They could hardly retire on my modest wedge.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    Unless they unfreeze my account I can't play poker on here. Sky have my Name & Address if they Google Earth they will see me mowing the Lawn in the back Garden holding the rake they wont get because I'm not playing poker on Sky. Why ask for my details then block me giving them ? Something their not telling me ....... like I'm surplus to requirements. cough!
  • safc71safc71 Member Posts: 1,542
    goldon said:

    Only been here on Sky Poker for ten years .
    Gave all my ID information when I joined ; age gender driving license ect, everything is the same only ten years older.
    Happy to give it all again but you wont answer any of the three options given to verify details. night in wash my hair.

    Went to put a bet on today at work and my account was also suspended until my account was verified (been with Skybet about 9 years).
    Clicked on my account scrolled down seen a verify account tab next to help tab. It was pretty easy to use had to take a photo of my driving licence and a bank statement, they then sent a message back :- documents will be checked with in 24 hours.
    I then contacted cc and asked them if they needed a photo of my birth certificate, he then checked what i had already sent he cleared the account straight away.
    I would contact cc on live chat if your account has not been cleared by tomorrow they will sort it out straight away.
    Cleared my account just in time for a race at Kempton and lost £5 :(
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    Yep! finally got through ... not sure about sending photo .... will end up on dart board or rouges gallery ..... lost my freebies .......... lol
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604
    edited April 2019
    I would hate for this to happen to me while I'm trying to grind a Vegas ticket.... Maybe I can pre-empt this somehow?

    EDIT: nevermind, I read safc's post fully and that answers that.
  • DuesenbergDuesenberg Member Posts: 1,746

    I would hate for this to happen to me while I'm trying to grind 2nd place in a rake race.... Maybe I can pre-empt this somehow?

    EDIT: nevermind, I read safc's post fully and that answers that.

    Fixed your post @kapowblamz ;)
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,604

    I would hate for this to happen to me while I'm trying to grind 2nd place in a rake race.... Maybe I can pre-empt this somehow?

    EDIT: nevermind, I read safc's post fully and that answers that.

    Fixed your post @kapowblamz ;)
    Ye my bad. Obvious typo.

    Maybe this is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    Well, Sky Bet have my details now........ why they won't my Height / Weight / neck size puzzling ....... think Pingu involved. Will I wait 72 hours to be reinstated. !
    Will Sky reimburse my lost free roll games that I worked so hard to win.
    Will Brexit ever happen .......... vote now.
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,176
    Goldongate?
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    mumsie said:

    Goldongate?

    Need "Vespa" on the case ........ this could be bridge to far for him.


  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,756
    Hi Goldon, for info -
    Brits who watch po rn online will be forced to prove their age before accessing X-rated sites from the summer. 😊
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
    tomgoodun said:

    Hi Goldon, for info -
    Brits who watch po rn online will be forced to prove their age before accessing X-rated sites from the summer. 😊

    Hi Tom, Hope you're well things improving for you and the Family.
    Children will find naughty pictures whatever you do. Shocked at the collection my boys had at fourteen. Took me ages to confiscate them.
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,756
    goldon said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Hi Goldon, for info -
    Brits who watch po rn online will be forced to prove their age before accessing X-rated sites from the summer. 😊

    Hi Tom, Hope you're well things improving for you and the Family.
    Children will find naughty pictures whatever you do. Shocked at the collection my boys had at fourteen. Took me ages to confiscate them.
    Things are really good at present thank you., hope you and yours are doing well.
    “ Confiscate them” lol
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209


    Things are really good at present thank you., hope you and yours are doing well.
    “ Confiscate them” lol

    Yep! we OK still here getting grumpier.

    Couldn't bring myself to Bin them.... now pride of place in my collection with .... Debbie does Vegas my Favourite. cough!
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,209
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