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Where does all the hate come from?

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576

This is just horrible.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48563393


This sort of stuff really depresses me. People hating on same-sex relationships, Brown people, Muslims & so on. What IS the matter with people?

Ugh.

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  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,053
    Yobs got rejected..... yob response..... lock em up, give key to the girls let them decide when they get out .......... not the soft judge.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,395
    Glad to hear they have made arrests.
    No doubt some lame judge will give them a slap on the wrists.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    Ok.I'll try to answer the OP's question without involving religion etc.

    It is a common held belief that a line runs through society which has inherently bad people on one side and intrinsically good people on the other and this serves societies requirement to feel insulated from the morality of the perceived bad people.

    I however, would contend that the line actually runs through everyones heart and that it is how our internal compass steers us that ultimately decides which side of the line we are on at any given point.

    FWIW my default setting is to usually steer toward sin / wrongdoing / bad choices etc. This isnt out of any overt desire to be bad just that often its easier to follow the path of least resistance and thats usually the wrong path.

    Add to this the moral decline of the last 40 years, the fact that wrongdoing by children frequently goes unpunished leading to a belief that they are untouchable and an increased "right of entitlement" element of thinking and thats a catalyst for disaster.

    Now also factor the decline in parenting skills, lack of suitable role models, the desensitisation of society to violence death and destruction and theres a compelling argument right there.

    So where does all this hate come from ?

    It comes from us.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    Morals,Manners & Respect sadly three things that are lacking in todays society.People who are barely children themselves having children of their own,then not instilling into them the M,M,R part of raising your child.Which has led to the 'I want it so I'll take it & I'll do what I like so **** you' generation.Mothers more concerned with visiting the nail-bar,tanning shop etc,letting the iPad entertain the child rather than putting the time and effort into raising them.Don't get me wrong as there has always been scumbags around but it's now getting to the point that they are becoming more of the norm than the exception. I've not led a blemish free life but there's no way on earth that I would have done the things that are going on today.I actually feel sorry for the future generations as it's only going to get worse and in 50 years time the kids of now will look back and say the same thing,that how better it was in the early 2000's.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Tikay10 said:


    This is just horrible.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48563393


    This sort of stuff really depresses me. People hating on same-sex relationships, Brown people, Muslims & so on. What IS the matter with people?

    Ugh.

    Unfortunately, rather than coming from somewhere it has always been there, and that seems unlikely to change.

    You don't have to go back that far to find black people being lynched in the USA, because they were black.

    South African apartheid.

    Just look at the way we behave in wars, or conflicts.

    The Holocaust.

    Ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe.

    Rwanda genocide.

    The Rohingya genocide.

    Kurdish genocide.

    Syria.

    There are probably many more examples of the diabolical things that humans are capable of, but I am not going to spend all day looking them up.

    We used to send gay people to jail.

    To a much lesser extent in this country it wasn't that long ago that it was acceptable to have signs in the windows of bed and breakfasts that said No Irish, No Blacks, No dogs.

    We have had gay people thrown out of guest houses, and bakers refusing to bake them cakes.

    Anne Widdecombe just got elected as an MEP, and thinks gay people can be cured.

    Enoch Powell was quite popular, and wanted to send black people home.

    Theresa May had "Go Home" vans travelling around the country.

    Windrush.

    The Stephen Lawrence murder was horrific.

    The saving grace is that the overwhelming majority are genuinely good people.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    I am certain we would see much less of this, if the punishment fit the crime, yet this is rarely the case.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    There is a bigger much nastier picture.

    What about,

    Trumps defence of his cruel treatment of illegal immigrant children.

    The persecution of gay people in many places throughout the world.

    The Talibans routine treatment of women.

    Islamic State.

    The fact that we continue to trade with Saudi Arabia, despite their regular beheadings, and chopping hands off children.

    The commonplace burying of women up to their necks, before stoning them to death.

    The Eastern Europeans that raped/murdered, including burning alive their neighbours that they had lived next door to for 20 or 30 years.

    Suicide bombers that act in pairs, in order to detonate the second bomb on arrival of the emergency services, that have arrived in response to the first detonation.

    The imprisonment/execution of journalists.

    People that murder their whole family.

    Mass murderers that shoot up schools, workplaces, hotels, concerts etc.

    Any amount of serial killers.

    The unwarranted murderous Israeli response to Palestinian protests.

    Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, and Hitler were responsible for the deaths of many millions.

    You could just go on and on...………………………………………….
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,395
    FEAR
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    'I video-recorded a murder': Laughing pair are jailed for life for brutal three-hour torture killing after filming themselves inflicting 105 injuries on their victim
    Craig Barstow and Craig Fletcher have been jailed for killing of Gavin Barnes, 35
    They laughed as they slapped and kicked him with steel toe-capped boots
    They filmed the three-hour torture and murder on a mobile phone on Boxing Day
    Gavin died from severe injuries to the head causing brain damage and swelling
    Barstow, 31, was sentenced to life with a minimum term of 26-and-a-half years
    Fletcher, 33, was also handed a life sentence, with a 25 years minimum term



    Craig Barstow, 31 (pictured), was given a life sentence with a minimum term of 26-and-a-half years for his part in the three-hour torture and murder of Gavin Barnes, 35, in an Eston High Street flat in Middlesbrough, on Boxing Day last year



    Craig Fletcher, 33 (pictured), of Eston, was also handed a life sentence, with a 25 years minimum term for his part in the murder. He filmed the attack on his mobile phone. The footage was shown to Teeside Crown Court - but it was so graphic, the public gallery was cleared as it was played


    Simon Bourne Arton QC said told the men in court: 'Gavin Barnes was 35 when he died. He was 35 when you killed him... No sentence I impose upon you can begin to compensate his family and his friends. Nothing I do or say can help them in their grief.' (Pictured: Gavin Barnes)


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7150959/Craig-Barstow-Craig-Fletcher-jailed-life-filming-torture-killing-Gavin-Barnes.html


  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,576

    These guys must be wrong in the head.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    I talked to Kashuv about getting his Harvard admission rescinded over using racial slurs.
    Kyle Kashuv, a Parkland shooting survivor who has since become a conservative activist who spoke at the NRA’s annual meeting this year and in 2018, has become the center of a new political culture firestorm.
    On Monday, he tweeted that his admission to Harvard University had been rescinded after the unearthing of racist and anti-Semitic comments he made in text messages and a shared Google doc with classmates prior to the shooting. He told me in an interview he used those slurs for “shock value.”




    The comments, which swirled around Twitter before being first reported by the Huffington Post in May, included gratuitous use of the n-word, anti-Semitic references and a reference to a fellow student as a “ni**erjock”. In a statement on Twitter, Kashuv said that he was “embarrassed” by what he said.

    In the Google doc, a venue teens frequently use as an unmonitored digital chat platform, Kashuv typed a racial slur over and over again, even bragging that “im really good at typing ni**er ok like practice uhhhhhh makes perfect.” The text messages are arguably worse — he demeans a female classmate by saying she only “goes for ni**erjocks,” suggesting that she would prefer such black men sexually to a “pasty jew” (it’s not clear from the screenshots what the context for this is).

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/kyle-kashuv-on-his-harvard-crisis-“i-wish-i-could-take-it-back-i-cant”/ar-AAD3PU3?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Tikay10 said:


    These guys must be wrong in the head.

    Evil.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    edited June 2019
    Three teenagers who subjected school boy to six hour torture session for knocking over a drink jailed



    Three teenagers have been jailed for subjecting a boy to a brutal six hour torture ordeal which involved burning his genitals with a cigarette lighter - because he spilled a drink.
    The terrified 15-year-old schoolboy was held captive by the trio of thugs during which time he was slashed with a knife and had lit cigarettes stubbed out on his face.
    He was also battered with a curtain pole, ordered to lick up the spilled drink from the floor and when he refused had a Pot Noodle poured over his head.
    A court heard how the victim suffered serious injuries, including cuts and a badly broken nose, during the harrowing assault in the early hours of September 29 last year.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/three-teenagers-who-subjected-school-boy-to-six-hour-torture-session-for-knocking-over-a-drink-jailed-120203119.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Mariam Moustafa: Four teen girls spared jail after 'truly shocking' attack on student

    Four teenage girls have been spared jail despite admitting being part of an attack on an Egyptian student who later died.
    Mariam Moustafa was punched several times near a bus stop in Parliament Street, Nottingham, on 20 February last year.
    The engineering student suffered a stroke after being taken to the Queen's Medical Centre and died at Nottingham City Hospital on 14 March.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/mariam-moustafa-four-teen-girls-spared-jail-truly-204500344.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    SNP MP Ian Blackford brands Boris Johnson 'racist' at PMQs



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48689834
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    edited June 2019
    Birmingham carer who slapped and abused 101-year-old patient jailed for eight months

    A carer who was secretly filmed slapping and abusing a 101-year-old dementia patient has been jailed for eight months.
    Shocking footage shows Ashikiah Reid roughly cleaning the pensioner's face with a flannel and slapping her hands and arms.
    The elderly woman can be heard crying out in pain and seen reaching out to Reid as she appears to forcefully manhandle her.

    At one point Reid points her finger in the woman's face.
    The 36-year-old was filmed on hidden cameras after the victim's family became concerned about her home care.


    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/birmingham-carer-slapped-abused-101-old-patient-jailed-070500161.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    This smiling boy murdered his sister just to make his mother suffer. So how can she say she still loves him and visit him in jail? PIERS MORGAN meets a psychopath (through reinforced glass) as clever as he is twisted
    Paris Bennett, 25, killed his 4-year-old sister when he was 13 to punish his mother
    Piers Morgan met him at a jail in Texas where he is serving 40 years behind bars
    Having spent almost half his life in prison, he will soon be eligible for parole
    His mother Charity, who also has a six-year-old son, has forgiven him for murder





    Charity has forgiven her son, says she still loves him, and visits him regularly. Pictured: Paris aged 10, two years before he murdered his sister Ella (pictured aged two) after convincing his babysitter to go home

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7170759/PIERS-MORGAN-meets-psychopath-reinforced-glass-clever-twisted.html

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    £19.99 - the price of a teenager's life: Vicious zombie knife was bought for pocket money from an online warehouse and used to kill innocent 17-year-old - as his parents pour out their grief and anger in shattering interview



    Malcolm Mide-Madariola, 17 was murdered in Clapham, south London in November last year with a blade purchased from Knife Warehouse for £19.99. A 17-year-old youth will be sentenced for Malcolm's murder at the Old Bailey next month. Malcolm's parents, Olumide and Olukemi believe the police should be allowed to use 'stop and search' more frequently to make the streets safer. Malcom's killer was handed the knife by Treynae Campbell, who had an arsenal of 15 blades, all purchased from Knife Warehouse over the course of nine months.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Three boys wanted over Liverpool homophobic knife attack



    Police are hunting three boys in connection with an "appalling" homophobic knife attack on two men.
    The men were assaulted at about 21:20 BST on Saturday as they walked down Manningham Road, Anfield, Liverpool.
    Police said three boys, aged between 12 and 15, began by making "homophobic insults" before one of them produced a knife and attacked the men.
    One of the victims suffered serious but non-life threatening injuries to his head and neck. Both are in hospital.
    Merseyside Police said the men, both in their 30s, had been "left incredibly shaken by the incident".
    Det Insp Tara Denn said: "This was an appalling and unprovoked attack on two men simply making their way home."
    "The hate and violence that has been inflicted on them is simply unacceptable and won't be tolerated on the streets of Merseyside," she added.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48736297

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