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think i might be done with poker

lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
how can i go from be £350 up in may to been down £150 in june
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  • K0BAYASHlK0BAYASHl Member Posts: 2,029
    What stakes you been playing?
  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    2p 4p cash £5.50 tournaments and below
  • daggers747daggers747 Member Posts: 192
    You obviously enjoy Hilo Omaha as you started league.
    If you running playing bad at the moment I would suggest you take a few days off
    or and limit your spend per week or month. If it goes no reload until the next week or month.
    If it not fun stop.
  • step7step7 Member Posts: 298
    Wow that sounds more than just a down swing. Go back to basics, do some hand reviews and plug leaks - could be the dealer bashing you over the head one side and you yourself the other? At least you well rolled for 4nl, time to grind!
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,175
    It's a frame of mind issue.

    If your roll is on £150 and you came from a starting balance of £20 your pretty smug and all's well , but you want a higher balance .


    If your roll is £150 and you've dropped from £350 you're peeved but you still want a higher balance.

    One scenario, happy the other not so much.

    But they are both the same.

    Play poker for the enjoyment and let the balance take care of itself.





  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    my roll went from £20 to £350 to - £150
  • K0BAYASHlK0BAYASHl Member Posts: 2,029
    lfccarl said:

    my roll went from £20 to £350 to - £150

    Happens to everyone. Post some hands in the clinic if you want some feedback. maybe you're not playing great.

    Don't just post coolers tho, when your AA loses to KK AIPF.

    If you feel its effecting your play, then take a break and come back in a day or two.
  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    i put this post up then played a bit of cash double up straight away all in with aa 104 bb got called by 9 3 off used that money to play the £3.30 plo8 tournament and won that maybe the downswing is ending
  • step7step7 Member Posts: 298
    Don't forget variance works both ways! You may have had an big upswing to start with and ran hot. Remember to manage your Bankroll/play within your limits and good luck to you, hopefully the drought has ended :)
  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited June 2019
    take a week off or even more. If its getting to you it can effect your play. I took over a year off did me the world of good. Realise that you will get moments you cant win a thing and losing 100 quid when your up 300 is going to happen. Maybe your playing cash tables to long. Set a time limit and definitely dont try and play catch up just give it a rest if your continually losing. It sucks but its part of the game.
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,461
    hey Carl...welcome to my world!

    Been on a downswing all year....taking a time out really works! ( but only for a week in my case)
    I did and whilst I have carried on losing, I came back with a greater sense of enjoyment, even so! I changed my game a little and haven't seen the results' benefit(yet)

    My strategy now is to carry on playing to try to grind myself out of my current slump and just get that one win-or go back to my previous way of playing!

    GLGL
  • DoyleBrunDoyleBrun Member Posts: 1,296
    When I started playing poker at 2/4p I had a very cautious strategy to try and build my bankroll, at 2/4p not many take notice of how you played so only got into big pots with the nuts or near nuts. This built my bankroll up very slowly but it went up, then I started to expand my game a little keeping in pots that I was not certain to win but against certain players this was a good strategy. Got my bankroll up to £650ish then had to take £500 out ( Xmas prezzies ), but as I was winning thought it would be easy to build roll up again playing same style. When I was down to £50 where some of it was bad beats mixed in with bad play I had a rethink and went back to the cautious strategy and my roll picked up and went well beyond the £500. Now I play 10/20p and 5/10p just for fun and although my roll goes up and down its usually on the way up. Just recently at cash I have been battered so again I have become more cautious if only to slow down the down swing last couple of days have been better. Maybe the strategy that got you to £350 was the same as mine when I first started and maybe now you have played for a while you to have expanded your game and come unstuck also. If I were you I would have a couple of weeks off and think back to what made you a winning player start again and grind it out for a while playing a risk averse strategy at 2/4p this should build your roll its not pretty but this should work good luck at the tables.
  • step7step7 Member Posts: 298
    edited June 2019
    Watching your cash game you definitely have leaks..work on your game on and off the table, post some hands in the forum for review (as all ways not just the big cooler pots! they play themselves!)

    Easy leak fix #1 is keep your stack topped to the max. Seen you let it dwindle to 3.30, when you have two full stacks at your table - that extra 70p is significant if your are getting it in right - which hopefully you are confident you should be - and scoop maxed out 3 way pot!

    Not chiding, just a potential massive +17.5% edge right there, could take years of study/work to achieve that in other areas of your game - if at all!
  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    just had a look at all the pot i lost over 50p all of them was cooler apart from the last 2 hand by then i had the **** i no i should of folded the last 2
  • step7step7 Member Posts: 298
    edited June 2019
    Don't just look at the winning/losing pots, make a note of any hands you think you played badly or wasn't sure in - they're more likely the trouble in the long term.

    A point of note: winning/losing pots is not always a direct reflection of how well you played! Poker is a funny/rich/complex/bedstead of a game like that - all gravy as it keeps the fish swimming:)

    Sorry if have the details wrong here, was working on 2nd monitor and not specifically watching your table that I'd finished at and been too lazy to close.. but as example..
    You open-limp 69s on the cutoff, as it happened I think you won a small-medium pot with a flush, lovely, but moves like that you stand to get "coolered" by the random hands you've let in from the button, SB, BB who limp behind you (you get over over-flushed 10% of the time if all 3 come along) How good you feeling with 9 high flush when all the money goes in on the river?

    You need to be honest and decide if plays like this and getting the arts so not folding in the last two are affecting your bankroll or is it all just run bad?

    Good luck and hope you can spin it back up :)
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,581
    lfccarl said:

    just had a look at all the pot i lost over 50p all of them was cooler apart from the last 2 hand by then i had the **** i no i should of folded the last 2


    The bolded part could be part of the problem, if you tilt when on a downswing you can make the downswing so much worse, especially at the cash tables.

    Also have you considered that your £350 up in May could have been due to you running really well during that month? I know that when I first noted you on the PLO8 tables you seemed to hit every board going and that does make winning a lot easier!

    I don't think you have been on Sky long (correct me if I'm wrong) and certainly less than 500 tournaments is really no guide to long term profitability. On SS your current profit is less than £100 below your peak, that's not much of a downswing at £5.50 level.

    This suggests that you may have lost more at cash so it might be worth keeping an eye on what formats of game you do better at.

    If it's getting to you take a break and consider doing some work on your game if you want. If it's just a game then don't worry about it and treat it as such, as long as you are only playing well within your means.

    I hope it turns round for you and see you at the PLO8 tables soon.

  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    Enut said:

    lfccarl said:

    just had a look at all the pot i lost over 50p all of them was cooler apart from the last 2 hand by then i had the **** i no i should of folded the last 2


    The bolded part could be part of the problem, if you tilt when on a downswing you can make the downswing so much worse, especially at the cash tables.

    Also have you considered that your £350 up in May could have been due to you running really well during that month? I know that when I first noted you on the PLO8 tables you seemed to hit every board going and that does make winning a lot easier!

    I don't think you have been on Sky long (correct me if I'm wrong) and certainly less than 500 tournaments is really no guide to long term profitability. On SS your current profit is less than £100 below your peak, that's not much of a downswing at £5.50 level.

    This suggests that you may have lost more at cash so it might be worth keeping an eye on what formats of game you do better at.

    If it's getting to you take a break and consider doing some work on your game if you want. If it's just a game then don't worry about it and treat it as such, as long as you are only playing well within your means.

    I hope it turns round for you and see you at the PLO8 tables soon.

    i been on sky over 10 years i reset my ss in may
    i made around £500 profit last year play the 3 months over the summer
  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    Enut said:

    lfccarl said:

    just had a look at all the pot i lost over 50p all of them was cooler apart from the last 2 hand by then i had the **** i no i should of folded the last 2


    The bolded part could be part of the problem, if you tilt when on a downswing you can make the downswing so much worse, especially at the cash tables.

    Also have you considered that your £350 up in May could have been due to you running really well during that month? I know that when I first noted you on the PLO8 tables you seemed to hit every board going and that does make winning a lot easier!

    I don't think you have been on Sky long (correct me if I'm wrong) and certainly less than 500 tournaments is really no guide to long term profitability. On SS your current profit is less than £100 below your peak, that's not much of a downswing at £5.50 level.

    This suggests that you may have lost more at cash so it might be worth keeping an eye on what formats of game you do better at.

    If it's getting to you take a break and consider doing some work on your game if you want. If it's just a game then don't worry about it and treat it as such, as long as you are only playing well within your means.

    I hope it turns round for you and see you at the PLO8 tables soon.

    i reset ss back a years where i played over 3000 tournaments
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,581
    Ah OK, my bad then.

    Have you not suffered a £150 downswing before then? If so you've been lucky!
  • lfccarllfccarl Member Posts: 1,499
    Enut said:

    Ah OK, my bad then.

    Have you not suffered a £150 downswing before then? If so you've been lucky!

    i had a bad downswing at the start of the year
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