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Some Jokes Arent Funny? Including Photos Of Victims Of Acid Attacks.
BBC defends Jo Brand after she says: 'Why bother with milkshake when you could get some battery acid?'
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/bbc-defends-jo-brand-she-171222098.html
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/bbc-defends-jo-brand-she-171222098.html
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Radio 4’s Heresy show - kind of expected on this show though?
Thank you for quoting me but I'll requote: Made me laugh, not made me think there's an idea.
I'm no expert on comedy or laughter but generally I think one is intended to induce an involuntary outbreak of the other, some times we laugh due to the shock of what has being said. Death is pretty horrible by all accounts but there are plenty of jokes involving that.
A joke is a joke and reality is reality massive void between the two.
Guy slips on a banana skin.. <-- Joke, from oldest book of Jokes
Guy slips on a banana skin, takes a horrible fall ends up in a wheel chair for the rest of his life <--Reality
If you read the article can you seriously say she was inciting an attack as horrific as this?
She even turned the joke around and closed by turning the hate to milkshake rather than the individual.
Sorry if my reply offended you, was just giving you my honest reaction to [question] "Some Jokes Arent Funny?" - I found this joke funny.
Maybe you meant to have titled the post [statement] "Some Subjects Aren't Funny" - I agree, I don't find this subject funny.
Surely you could have responded with the statement that acid attacks are no joking matter rather than those pictures?
I'm no expert on comedy or laughter but generally I think one is intended to induce an involuntary outbreak of the other, some times we laugh due to the shock of what has being said. Death is pretty horrible by all accounts but there are plenty of jokes involving that.
A joke is a joke and reality is reality massive void between the two.
Guy slips on a banana skin.. <-- Joke, from oldest book of Jokes
Guy slips on a banana skin, takes a horrible fall ends up in a wheel chair for the rest of his life <--Reality
If you read the article can you seriously say she was inciting an attack as horrific as this?
She even turned the joke around and closed by turning the hate to milkshake rather than the individual.
Sorry if my reply offended you, was just giving you my honest reaction to [question] "Some Jokes Arent Funny?" - I found this joke funny.
Maybe you meant to have titled the post [statement] "Some Subjects Aren't Funny" - I agree, I don't find this subject funny.
Surely you could have responded with the statement that acid attacks are no joking matter rather than those pictures?</p>
I am not really sure what point you are trying to make.
She was clearly trying to make the point that attacking people with acid would be more effective than milkshakes.
This is obviously true, as illustrated by the photos.
I cant for the life of me find any humour in acid attacks.
The BBC initially published a strange response to the outrage this caused, before having second thoughts and editing the comments out of the programme.
You never seem to understand or are unsure about any thought, opinion, or action that doesnt comply completely with yours.
People post articles for leaving the EU you dont really understand what theyre saying.
The point hes making is that it is not inciting anybody to commit any form of attack.
When I used to finish a gig, which I was paid for, yes that means I was at one time paid to perform comedy. Id always end with the following statement......
"If Ive offended anybody here tonight Id just like to say. Im a comedian get a fkn life"
Live comedy is the last bastion of un pc humour. God forbid the offended entitled classes should be allowed to gag it.
Oh and before you start my material was never racist or homophobic.
I'll concede one that was in poor taste - but then again this what she had been invited in to do.
I don't know whether it was off the cuff but it was definitely ill considered - we may see her suffer the consequences for that. Seems to be a theme here with you and points - seeing one's that aren't there, not seeing one's that should be quite obvious.
My point is..
Did I find this joke funny? **** Yes!
Will I be throwing Acid instead of Milkshake in future? **** No!
Should her comments be interpreted as a "Call to Action" - only if you take every word that comes out of a persons mouth literally, most likely having no sense of humour and/or suffering from some kind of mental health issue. Again you're missing the point. The humour is in the tension between an unpopular public figure and the notion that he's that unpopular he might be warrant such an atrocious action - that tension releases itself as laughter.
Laughing at it doesn't mean you find acid attacks funny, that he deserves anything more than milkshake over him or that we should all start stock piling chemicals for his next local walk about - it just means your brain had an involuntary reaction to trying to process such an extreme notion which is contrary to your basic human values. It's perfectly normal, what would not be normal is to hear the words, find no humour and with a stern face declare "she's telling me I should throw acid not milkshake".
With regard to the BBC removing that section of the show from their catch up service, they are reacting to the fact that some people have been offended - quite a commendable demonstration of their sensitivity to any offence taken considering the microscopic number of complainants (65 by last reckoning) - however they have clearly backed Jo Brand in this matter.
I'll go no where near this as a political matter, that can be done in another thread, but I'm curious how you interpreted Mr. Farage's comments regarding him picking up a rifle* during his stand-up routine?
Did you find any humour in that at all?
Any hit of incitement there?
*We don't need to go over the fact that getting shot with a rifle leads to major trauma and possible death - that's a given and has nothing to do with the point - I won't be posting pictures of people ripped open by rifle rounds to make a point that no one would argue with anyway to bolster my other points.
Enough ramblings, I need to go and prepare lunch for later.
I have a gammon I need to pour apple juice over.
My comments obviously reflect my views.
I appreciate that some people may not agree with them but are entitled to their opinions.
The implication of the joke was that milkshake attacks are pathetic, and that the use of battery acid would produce a better result.
My point was that I can see no humour in acid attacks.
Whatever you may say on the subject is unlikely to change my view.
I also think that the last sentence of your response defeats your argument.
Acid attack victims slam Jo Brand's 'vile' and 'inhumane' remark as they call on her and the BBC to apologise and say police should arrest her
Jo Brand told comedy panel show she fantasised about throwing battery acid
Acid attack victims today slammed Jo Brand and called on police to arrest her
Nigel Farage today called Jo Brand an 'overpaid, so-called comedian'
She refused to apologise outside her £1.9million home in south east London
She said that the BBC can't sack her because they don't employ her
Comedian Lee Hurst defended the remarks as comedy rather than incitement
Sophie Hall (left) called on police to arrest Brand over her comments. Joe Davies (right) called her remarks 'vile' and 'inhumane'
The Prime Minister's official spokesman also waded into the scandal and called on the BBC to explain why the joke was broadcast on one of its radio shows.
Andreas Christopheros suffered horrific burns in a mistaken identity attack on his doorstep in Truro, Cornwall, in 2014
Mr Christopheros (pictured with his son Theo and wife Pia, left, and right) today labelled Brand and the BBC 'reckless and deeply stupid'
Brand, 61, (left) said on Radio 4 show Heresy that yobs who doused politicians like Farage (right, speaking today) with milkshakes were 'pathetic' and added: 'Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7138111/Acid-attack-victims-slam-Jo-Brands-vile-inhumane-remark.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
I do understand what people are saying.
In your own case, many of your posts are confined to rhetoric, and when asked to expand on this rhetoric, you regularly disappear, and avoid the debate.
I'll concede one that was in poor taste - but then again this what she had been invited in to do.
I don't know whether it was off the cuff but it was definitely ill considered - we may see her suffer the consequences for that.
Brand, 61, (left) said on Radio 4 show Heresy that yobs who doused politicians like Farage (right, speaking today) with milkshakes were 'pathetic' and added: 'Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?'
Seems to be a theme here with you and points - seeing one's that aren't there, not seeing one's that should be quite obvious.
My point is..
Did I find this joke funny? **** Yes!
Will I be throwing Acid instead of Milkshake in future? **** No!
Should her comments be interpreted as a "Call to Action" - only if you take every word that comes out of a persons mouth literally, most likely having no sense of humour and/or suffering from some kind of mental health issue.
I just don't think that throwing acid over people you hate is at all funny. Again you're missing the point. The humour is in the tension between an unpopular public figure and the notion that he's that unpopular he might be warrant such an atrocious action - that tension releases itself as laughter.
If you say so.
Laughing at it doesn't mean you find acid attacks funny, that he deserves anything more than milkshake over him or that we should all start stock piling chemicals for his next local walk about - it just means your brain had an involuntary reaction to trying to process such an extreme notion which is contrary to your basic human values. It's perfectly normal, what would not be normal is to hear the words, find no humour and with a stern face declare "she's telling me I should throw acid not milkshake".
I am unable to see any humour in this.
I think that your argument fails to acknowledge that acid throwing seems to be a fairly common occurrence.
With regard to the BBC removing that section of the show from their catch up service, they are reacting to the fact that some people have been offended - quite a commendable demonstration of their sensitivity to any offence taken considering the microscopic number of complainants (65 by last reckoning) - however they have clearly backed Jo Brand in this matter.
Really.
I'll go no where near this as a political matter, that can be done in another thread, but I'm curious how you interpreted Mr. Farage's comments regarding him picking up a rifle* during his stand-up routine?
Did you find any humour in that at all?
Any hit of incitement there?
I try to avoid listening to anything that Mr Farage has to say, and that most of what he has to say in nonsense, in my view.
*We don't need to go over the fact that getting shot with a rifle leads to major trauma and possible death - that's a given and has nothing to do with the point - I won't be posting pictures of people ripped open by rifle rounds to make a point that no one would argue with anyway to bolster my other points.
I think that posting a couple of photos that illustrate the actual result of acid attacks, may emphasise the fact that they aren't funny.
Enough ramblings, I need to go and prepare lunch for later.
I have a gammon I need to pour apple juice over.
We all have a different sense of humour, I find jokes about throwing acid over people sick, rather than funny.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7140599/Comedian-Jo-Brand-apologises-crass-ill-judged-battery-acid-joke.html
I wouldn't have clicked if I had been warned.
In my defence these photos appeared in a daily newspaper, and as we are amongst the world leaders in acid attacks, it is likely that many will come across victims of these attacks while conducting their daily lives.
I have edited the title accordingly.
UK has one of highest rates of acid attacks in the world, police reveal
An average of two attacks a day are recorded by forces across the country
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/acid-attacks-uk-highest-world-figures-police-revealed-a8098236.html