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Poker and Mental Health

kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,580
I feel I struggle on a day to day basis. 1st day I am going to live till i'm 98. That day it all equates to being super probably the most likely answer. 2nd day I feel like I'm going to die pretty soon. The argument for this is also pretty strong too.

There are levels to this in many aspects and times of life.

Is there any help available for poker players? I think with the right skill set there is a station around somewhere for a poker shrink.
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  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited October 2019
    Quit poker today if it's it that make you feel like that.

  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754
    There are books, which I’m sure you are aware of “ The mental game of poker” being one, but reading between the lines I feel a different course of action may be best.

    I can’t stress enough how important it is to talk first to your GP, who should refer you to people who specialise in this subject, waiting times may vary dependent on how truthful you are - it’s imperative you tell the truth if you are strong enough to seek help.

    Tell family members, they will support you.

    Good luck, my thoughts are with you.

  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,997
    Be aware Sky Poker will remove you from playing on the site if you have Mental Issues.
    If you are struggling with mind set due to down swings, that is different issue, players on sky often suggest good poker books which help players over this hurdle. fwiw gl
  • daggers747daggers747 Member Posts: 189
    Admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting the help you need.
    Is your problem poker and or gambling in general. Or are you struggling in generally in life at this time.

    As Tomgoodun says the first place to go is your GP.

    It will take a little time but the first thing to know is that you are not alone.

    In life everyone has struggles. Life without laughter can become a lonely and depressing
    place.

    The journey to good mental health may take a little time, but talking about any problems you may have is the first step.

    Good luck. Daggers



  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 168,887

    Some great replies here.

    So many people suffer from issues like these but are scared to talk about it or seek help.

    The first step is accomplished - it's good to talk - but if it persists, do please try & get some expert help. Sometimes these things are very easily solved.

    If in doubt, & you think it may be poker-related, take a little break & freshen up.

    It sounds a bit old-fashioned, but exercise & fresh air often help a great deal. We spend so long tip-tapping & clicking a keyboard, a good long daily walk can make the world of difference.
  • DEL560DEL560 Member Posts: 487
    Hope things seem better today @kapowblamz If it poker that is making ypu feel like this make sure you take days off where you don't play and maybe try different formats of the game? Good Luck
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,069
    edited October 2019
    Hope you doing ok this morning. I've suffered on and off for many years. There is help out there but I found family and friends were always the best medicine, alongwith @Tikay10 suggestion of getting outside and going for a long walk or run. It really does make you feel better once you've boosted the Endorphins in your bloodstream.

    There is of course the CBT route but, with respect to the professionals, it's not for everyone and I found it a bit patronising. Either way talk to your close ones and let them know how you are feeling. That's the hard part but it is a massive weight off your shoulders.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,580
    Well... I don't even remember posting this.

    Sober me thinks exercising is win win so I'll be trying to run today however horrific the idea sounds.

    Ironically I love running away from things...

    It's amazing that every post so far has shown concern. Top folk you lot.




  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,069

    Well... I don't even remember posting this.

    Sober me thinks exercising is win win so I'll be trying to run today however horrific the idea sounds.

    Ironically I love running away from things...

    It's amazing that every post so far has shown concern. Top folk you lot.




    If you're an English rugby fan then you could always stick ITV on, should cheer you up a bit. If you're Scottish then I'd go for a run.

    Hope things get sorted :smile:
  • glencoeladglencoelad Member Posts: 1,505
    Enjoy the run, then a run good at the tables x or take a break, not easy to do for us addicts but worth it if you can . I found the book mentioned by @tomgoodun very helpful Mental game of poker .
    If its not just the poker, def go chat to GP and open up to friends.
    Good that the drink helped you post this, but alcohol is often a depressant,
    and def does not go well with playing poker at the same time , as i have found to my cost !
    Take care.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634

    I feel I struggle on a day to day basis. 1st day I am going to live till i'm 98. That day it all equates to being super probably the most likely answer. 2nd day I feel like I'm going to die pretty soon. The argument for this is also pretty strong too.

    There are levels to this in many aspects and times of life.

    Is there any help available for poker players? I think with the right skill set there is a station around somewhere for a poker shrink.

    Interesting post, and one that resonates with me strongly.

    It depends what exactly you mean. If you mean general counselling for poker players, then I'm not sure that currently exists because not all poker players think the same way, meaning it would be impossible to tailor the service towards them specifically. However, if you mean counselling for people who are suffering due to poker specifically, then I am sure some councillors who specialise in gambling issues exist out there.

    I am going through a challenging time at the moment in terms of mental health, and counselling doesn't appear to be effective right now - even though I have found it extremely useful in the past. Personally, I am trying to channel my negative energy into a few different projects, one of which is developing my poker game. So, it can be a force for good also. I do hate the way that society generally has a negative viewpoint on gambling, because it can be positive. Although, I do understand that it can impact people negatively too.

    I'm rambling at this point. Feel free to drop me a PM if you wish to have a chat at any time. As long as I am active on the site, I will always respond.
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    If poker ever legitimately made me angry /sulk for more than ten minutes at a time I probably wouldn’t play anymore ... would not be worth it. I tend to blow up get really angry and return back to normal after five or ten minutes. More importantly it does not linger with me.
  • FeelGroggyFeelGroggy Member Posts: 838
    Sorry to hear that you are having a bad time of it. Here's my two cents as someone who plays the same format as you.

    The games we play can take a horrible mental toll on you. A network of friends within poker can help. Family and friends are great but don't fully understand poker specific problems. I'm not sure what your results have been like recently, but even the best players in the spin pools can downswing 5 figures playing well. If spins get particularly hard to deal with, at least you have the knowledge that you can crush MTT's for a wage.

    Life balance is essential. Whilst I was at uni (which I hated), poker was the only real hobby I had. I'd find how I was performing at poker had an unhealthy impact on my happiness levels. Fortunately this was pre-spins! I'd recommend having multiple things going on outside of poker. I'm also a big advocate of frequent exercise. Poker is such a mentally stimulating game that finding some kind of physical balance is definitely advisable. Whether this manifests itself in going to the gym, going for runs, or picking up a physical sport like tennis, I think that it's super good mentally.

    Also don't feel guilty about dropping volume, or having sessions of playing less lucrative formats (i.e MTT's). Playing a different format can be a refreshing change. With poker I think having designated hours that you always play is sub-optimal for both profit and mental health. There are natural ebbs and flows. Your going to have periods where you play loads and periods you barely play and that's fine.

    Good luck on and off the tables.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,580
    I was too drunk when I posted this but nevertheless it's a good thread. I'm nowhere near struggling and I imagine there are people out there who really do find it hard day to day.

    Sometimes you feel down and vice versa whatever your profession and poker is a simple scapegoat.

    The real issue is being the wrong side of 35 and the enlightenment that brings... I don't know how anyone over 40 can grind online tournaments for a living.

    @FeelGroggy your post is pretty much perfect. Balance is so important. It's too easy just to sit and play poker. Willpower is the vital ingredient.

    Just to clarify, I can't stop winning atm so it's not some downswing depression.

  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491

    Sorry to hear that you are having a bad time of it. Here's my two cents as someone who plays the same format as you.

    The games we play can take a horrible mental toll on you. A network of friends within poker can help. Family and friends are great but don't fully understand poker specific problems. I'm not sure what your results have been like recently, but even the best players in the spin pools can downswing 5 figures playing well. If spins get particularly hard to deal with, at least you have the knowledge that you can crush MTT's for a wage.

    Life balance is essential. Whilst I was at uni (which I hated), poker was the only real hobby I had. I'd find how I was performing at poker had an unhealthy impact on my happiness levels. Fortunately this was pre-spins! I'd recommend having multiple things going on outside of poker. I'm also a big advocate of frequent exercise. Poker is such a mentally stimulating game that finding some kind of physical balance is definitely advisable. Whether this manifests itself in going to the gym, going for runs, or picking up a physical sport like tennis, I think that it's super good mentally.

    Also don't feel guilty about dropping volume, or having sessions of playing less lucrative formats (i.e MTT's). Playing a different format can be a refreshing change. With poker I think having designated hours that you always play is sub-optimal for both profit and mental health. There are natural ebbs and flows. Your going to have periods where you play loads and periods you barely play and that's fine.

    Good luck on and off the tables.

    I expect that bit will really resonate with a lot of people reading this
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,170
    edited October 2019

    I was too drunk when I posted this but nevertheless it's a good thread. I'm nowhere near struggling and I imagine there are people out there who really do find it hard day to day.

    Sometimes you feel down and vice versa whatever your profession and poker is a simple scapegoat.

    The real issue is being the wrong side of 35 and the enlightenment that brings... I don't know how anyone over 40 can grind online tournaments for a living.

    @FeelGroggy your post is pretty much perfect. Balance is so important. It's too easy just to sit and play poker. Willpower is the vital ingredient.

    Just to clarify, I can't stop winning atm so it's not some downswing depression.

    Good on you @kapowblamz for posting and great reply again from @FeelGroggy and of course @Tikay10 as we have come to expect. Glad the other replies have largely been positive too.

    We are very fortunate that this is one of the rare Poker forums where you get genuine replies and support from your fellow players and Sky Poker team. (AKA TK)

    A lot of Poker players have some form of challenges in other areas of their life.

    Poker in some cases can make people unhappy, but it also provides opportunity to many that may potentially struggle in other areas of life. Only you can really assess how much of the mood swing is down to Poker and how much is down to other things, then address it accordingly.

    Regarding the age thing, I am the other side of 50 now and still grind away. Although I am working to improve my game still, mainly so I can play less volume but higher stakes.

    Typically I only play four tables at a time now, but hopefully I will still be doing this in my sixties, so you have a lot of time ahead of you still.

    I sincerely wish you all the best.

    The important thing to remember when you are feeling down is that, "IT WILL PASS"

    Hang in there and do reach out to friends and family if you need to. Take care and best of luck on and off the tables.

    On a personal note, I am always happy to receive a PM if you ever want to reach out.

    Graham
  • hazelwoo05hazelwoo05 Member Posts: 58
    Great comments above. Its important to remember there are a lot of people out there for you who can talk to you how you feel. Many poker players have mental health issues due its nature your not alone! Exercise certainly helps endorphins making you feel good also sense of achievement other than poker could be as simple as tidying a room in the house or washing up or enjoy another hobbie a little more too. Your a very good player and the community here is great. Play when you feel good not when you don't. Take care
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,580
    So grateful to everyone who posted. Amazing posts all round. Thank you.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kobdb37Cwc
  • K0BAYASHlK0BAYASHl Member Posts: 2,027

    I was too drunk when I posted this but nevertheless it's a good thread. I'm nowhere near struggling and I imagine there are people out there who really do find it hard day to day.

    Sometimes you feel down and vice versa whatever your profession and poker is a simple scapegoat.

    The real issue is being the wrong side of 35 and the enlightenment that brings... I don't know how anyone over 40 can grind online tournaments for a living.

    @FeelGroggy your post is pretty much perfect. Balance is so important. It's too easy just to sit and play poker. Willpower is the vital ingredient.

    Just to clarify, I can't stop winning atm so it's not some downswing depression.

    You’re right! Nice £1k bink!
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,580
    K0BAYASHl said:



    You’re right! Nice £1k bink!

    I just sat there pondering what 1k bink you were on about then I looked at the draw results. Sky Poker is the stone cold nuts.
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