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poker etiquette and chip dumping
porter1989
Member Posts: 20
I've just been playing a £100 guaranteed tournament. I made the final table as chip leader, and came into the last 3 in 2nd, although one player was away. As this player got blinded out, the big stack - XXX decided that rather than make up his small blind (which was more than the big blinds stack) he would fold every hand, and then proceed to 4 raise every hand when im in the big blind. I think something needs to be done about this because for as long as players think its ok to play like this its an absolute joke! On pokerstars as soon as you get shorter than the blind and are away you're automatically knocked out!
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sorry thats what i meant about stars, it does automatically call. having said that, lets not get away from the point this dumping of chips happened over about 15 hands it was no 2 or 3 hand coincidence!
the fact is this guy was using tactics and you let him him (bully you)/get away with it.
if its me i would be all-in every hand that oi am 1st to act in and see how he likes a taste of his own medicine
As has already been pointed out, this seems like good tactics if he felt that he could severely reduce your chip stack while you were trying to hold on to place higher than the away player.
I had this happen to me on the bubble of a satellite once and I played it so badly that I ended up missing out on a seat.
what happened mate was the big blind has less chips than the small blind - so he would of had the chips he played to make up back plus however many more he had than the short stack already from his small blind. that isnt tactical its just stupid because hes already commited those chips and then given them away
you were happy to be bullied so you could ladder up and get another £15 i would not of been happy with that i would want to win the tourny for the extra £25 or so?
what was the final outcome did you get 2nd place?
I'm supprised by the responses to this, i think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that a player with more money invested than the BB to see the cards play out, they can't lose anything. If this was 2 players who were known to each other playing against the OP then there would be collusion posts and consipiracy theories all over this thread.
Nobody, nowhere, is EVER forced to "make up" the SB, be they absent or not. That would be against all universal rules of poker.
The Big Stack played this absolutely optimally, & he did nothing wrong. He wants YOU out, then his Heads-Up duel is easier! It's basic poker strategy, & any player, 3 handed & in this situation, would do this.
When an odd situation arises - such as "last 3, but one is disco'd", it's up to the other two players to re-assess how they handle this, & find the optimal strategy. That is exactly what the Big Stack did.
But Beaneh sums it up perfectly, & "kills" the debate.
lets say blinds are 1000 - 2000 but the player in the big only has 999. The Small Blind would already have that covered by the 1k small blind so the call on most sites would be automatic.SKY however operates differently and makes you call the 2k and have 1001 returned. As the system won't register the bet as called unless you call 2k (not the 999 bet) then you can fold here and pass 1k to the BB even though he only had 999 left. This in my opinion is an error on the sky site and if the Small Blind forced bet covers the remaining chips of the BB then the call should be automatic by the system as the amount bet by the BB has already been matched by the small blind