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Airport update...don't shoot the messenger

madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,297
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UPDATE!

From a reliable immigration source -meeting held today-at a regional airport!

There is a plan to close all regional airports except for Manchester, Heathrow and Gatwick
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,024
    This will happen
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,489
    What no Luton / Stansted / Birmingham You cannot be serious.


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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 7,999
    goldon said:

    What no Luton / Stansted / Birmingham You cannot be serious.


    Rather depends on how you define "regional" airports.

    It used to be any that were not in London. Now, it tends to be any that do not serve London.

    That is why various airports have rebranded to avoid being classed as "regional" airports. So-London Stanstead, London Luton, London Southend, etc.

    Still leaves approx 42 "Regional" airports. That number is likely to drop dramatically in the next few years. But I expect some will survive.
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    PaintedOnePaintedOne Member Posts: 236
    thats right there will be just 4 for the whole uk , the peasants wont need them anyway, they wont have enough carbon allowance for a holiday
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,489
    London Manchester .....?
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,489
    Build lot of Houses on Runway.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 7,999
    PaintedOne said:

    thats right there will be just 4 for the whole uk , the peasants wont need them anyway, they wont have enough carbon allowance for a holiday

    It is likely to be more complex.

    The trick will be in the definitions.

    In the US/Canada, a "Regional Airport" is totally different. It means that it is there to provide domestic only flights. There is no international travel, and consequently no need for immigration services.

    This is the way various Regional airports will be reclassified, so as to only have domestic flights. There are now 42 Regional Airports (out of over 200 airports), as the 8 London airports are no longer classed as "Regional". Here are the biggest passenger numbers:-

    London Heathrow Airport LHR 80,886,589
    London Gatwick Airport LGW 46,574,786
    Manchester Airport MAN 29,367,477
    London Stansted Airport STN 28,124,292
    London Luton Airport LTN 18,213,901
    Edinburgh Airport EDI 14,733,966
    Birmingham Airport BHX 12,646,456
    Bristol Airport BRS 8,959,679
    Glasgow Airport GLA 8,843,214
    Belfast International Airport BFS 6,278,374
    Newcastle Airport NCL 5,198,952
    London City Airport LCY 5,122,271
    Liverpool Airport LPL 5,043,975
    East Midlands Airport EMA 4,674,338
    Leeds Bradford Airport LBA 3,992,209
    Aberdeen Airport ABZ 2,912,743
    Belfast City Airport BHD 2,455,259
    London Southend Airport SEN 2,035,535
    Southampton Airport SOU 1,781,308
    Jersey Airport JER 1,715,952
    Cardiff Airport CWL 1,654,920
    Exeter Airport EXT 1,021,705
    Glasgow Prestwick Airport PIK 638,975

    Of these 21 largest, 6 are now reclassified as "London", including 4 of the biggest 5.

    Manchester is massive. At least 1 of Glasgow/Edinburgh will remain. As will Belfast and Birmingham. If it was to be reduced to 4, that would be my thinking.

    Lots of others will remain. The only difference will be that, in relation to international flights, they will be reduced to a hub for interconnecting flights via Heathrow, etc. But many of those airports will remain vital-Aberdeen, Jersey, Lerwick and the other Scottish Island airports, etc.

    There will be less airports. But probably half of the current "regional" airports will have nearly as many flights as now.

    And "London" will be unaffected by any reduction. Naturally.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,129

    @Essexphil

    East Midlands Airport will always survive too, it's the UK's busiest air freight hub.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 7,999
    Tikay10 said:


    @Essexphil

    East Midlands Airport will always survive too, it's the UK's busiest air freight hub.

    I'm sure you are right. It will be an important airport. It just won't necessarily be in the "regional" group, although it would be one of the last to go from that definition.

    Most will survive. Their role will just change in relation to consumer transport abroad.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 7,999
    I'm sure a lot of people get thoroughly tired of everything being blamed on Brexit.

    But it is true to say that most short-haul flights now do involve major immigration paperwork, whereas before they did not.

    I'm sure the original plan only involved reducing the number of UK long-haul airports...
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