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macsback1macsback1 Member Posts: 10
It easy to view this post as simply a moan, but l am at the end of my tether with the constant bad breaks suffered on this site by being called with rags and ridiculous calls....It as though players have caught on to this fact and simply call with anything knowing their poor play will be rewarded, as far to often a pre-raise still does not discourage a 6-10. 7,4 being folded. I have won tournaments and made the final table often, but far to often been thrown out of a tourney by such erratic play. Raising with a high pair is common fair, and l accept aggressive play and bluffing is an integral part of Poker, but to be called by rags and losing, even when having trips on the flop is far to rife, or there are far to many players on this site with software that affords them to see all cards, as l cannot accept this is purely back breaks almost each and every time l am presented with such a scenario?.....losing to an AK, or another pocket pair is acceptable and being caught by the odd idiot who has no concept of the game is equally so, but 10, 15 times a day can only make me think that the site settings on here are totally unrealistic and make playing the game soul destroying and a farce as the lottery that follows, totally removes any skill from the game......I can't imagine l am the only one that has experienced or is frustrated by this?

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  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,170
    Its often correct to call shoves with any two cards in Tournamnents.
  • NOSTRINOSTRI Member Posts: 1,459
    You should be overjoyed to have players like those you describe on a table with you.

    Sounds like you are bad at poker and need to put some study time in.
  • nickkaynickkay Member Posts: 171
    Variance, simple as that. You want bad players calling with rags, as long term you're gonna be +EV. As Nostri mentioned, forget what you would deem "bad beats" and put some study in. Give me bad players over solid regs every day of the week.
  • macsback1macsback1 Member Posts: 10
    Thanks NOSTRI, my comment was primarily related to the unrealistic settings of the site, not solely the standard of players....I would indeed be delighted by having such players on the table if their poor play wasn't so often rewarded, which was the very essence of my post........but if you had read as it, instead of taking the opportunity to purely comment on my standard of play, you would have seen this.........but as you are probably one of those idiots l refereed to, you wouldn't understand its content!
  • NOSTRINOSTRI Member Posts: 1,459
    I’m a winning player at my stakes who focuses on my own standard of play instead of blaming other people’s poor play for my losses, but I appreciate your concern. Good players win, bad players lose. This is all rather simple. Based on the way you have worded your post you have an incredibly simplistic view of poker strategy. As mentioned, you should consider putting some study in instead of trying to expose the site’s “unrealistic settings,” whatever that means. Good luck!
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    You were doing well and then you said about the settings of the site so you lose credibility. Maybe post some hands. Quite often people think they are playing perfect poker to use the phrase of a frequent poster when they aren’t and it’s not about “bad plays” by opponents but actually their own bad plays.
  • macsback1macsback1 Member Posts: 10
    My post was a general overview, however you felt the right to make it a personal attack on me, You are more than entitled to your view, but l would suggest that doesn't at the same time afford you to comment on something about me that you have no means of supporting Its equally naive if you think the site does not have settings. Rebuys are notorious for creating an hour of multiple attractive hands that encourage all ins as a means of boosting pots, which is programmed to achieve, so yes unrealistic setting is an actual thing!
    It would appear that we tend to enter the same level of tourneys, so l am sure l will be privileged at some stage to learn from your superior play.....
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,012
    edited March 2020
    macsback1 said:

    My post was a general overview, however you felt the right to make it a personal attack on me, You are more than entitled to your view, but l would suggest that doesn't at the same time afford you to comment on something about me that you have no means of supporting Its equally naive if you think the site does not have settings. Rebuys are notorious for creating an hour of multiple attractive hands that encourage all ins as a means of boosting pots, which is programmed to achieve, so yes unrealistic setting is an actual thing!
    It would appear that we tend to enter the same level of tourneys, so l am sure l will be privileged at some stage to learn from your superior play.....

    @macsback1

    The site does NOT have the "site settings" you refer to. That's not how Online Poker works.

    There is no such thing as "software which allows players to see all the cards", or, perhaps more importantly, see all the cards which are still to come.

    I can see you are getting a hard time from the boys, but your views are simply unrealistic I'm afraid.

    If you want some help with your game, & if you don't mind me saying so, Sharkscope suggests you may benefit from some help, post a few hands up on here & some really good players will attempt to help you with constructive advice, & I promise you they won't be rude or have any sport with you.
  • macsback1macsback1 Member Posts: 10
    Your probably right Matt, and probably not the contribution to my statement that holds much credibility,and its not designed to sound like a conspiracy theory, but any software has to be programmed, so its not unthinkable that these can be pre-set to achieve an synthetic experience?...I wouldn't imaging live poker creates the ace appearing as much as it does online?
  • NOSTRINOSTRI Member Posts: 1,459
    edited March 2020
    macsback1 said:

    My post was a general overview, however you felt the right to make it a personal attack on me

    It's not a personal attack to suggest that your game may need some work. Objectively speaking, the vast majority of players are pretty bad. 99% of poker players need to work on their game. If you don't think you are in that group then you have a huge problem.

    According to you, you are regularly getting worked over by much worse players than yourself. These are the easiest players in the world to profit from and they can be beaten with very simple strategies. Genuinely good poker players are not even slightly troubled by these people, they are printing money from them. The fact that you are not able to accomplish this strongly suggests you're an objectively poor poker player. Deal with it. If this is too hard for you to accept without your ego getting involved then perhaps poker is not your game.

    It's not an insult, it's a suggestion to do something to improve so we don't have to keep listening to you whine about how online poker is rigged like every other micro stakes pro on this site.

    People on here are always happy to help and generally more diplomatic than I am, so no time like the present.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,877
    macsback1 said:

    My post was a general overview, however you felt the right to make it a personal attack on me, You are more than entitled to your view, but l would suggest that doesn't at the same time afford you to comment on something about me that you have no means of supporting Its equally naive if you think the site does not have settings. Rebuys are notorious for creating an hour of multiple attractive hands that encourage all ins as a means of boosting pots, which is programmed to achieve, so yes unrealistic setting is an actual thing!
    It would appear that we tend to enter the same level of tourneys, so l am sure l will be privileged at some stage to learn from your superior play.....




  • macsback1macsback1 Member Posts: 10
    NOSTRI: Stating l'm a bad player does not sound like advise to me. I don't however claim to be anything other than an average player and therefore have no allusions about my ability.......unfortunately, no amount of lessons nor training modules will totally eliminate the issues l raised, so l will have to accept this and try and learn to deal with it.......My comment regarding software to cheat was indeed tongue in cheek, as I was mind boggled how they seem to call and pull rags to riches so often........ Thank you for the majority of posts, they have helped me put things into a better perspective.
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